16 years 9 months, crazy fast global warming

Hey piehole, you blustering bag of bullshit. What do you think the chances are that the increase in CO2 is due to man? Just a coincidence? Yeah, just a coincidence.

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Hey piehole! Think the rise in CO2 is just due to natural CO2 cycles? Maybe the isotope measuring isn't accurate. Perhaps the earth just decided to burp huge amounts of CO2 exactly when man started burning fossil fuels. Yeah, that's it. Can't be sure if man did it. After all there is the sub thermohaline carbon cycle and mass balance turnovers with aseotropic versimilitudes and duck sauce, that Salby says proves man has nothing to with it.

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The fact is that around 1970 there were 6 times as many scientists predicting a warming rather than a cooling planet. Today, with 30+years more data to analyse, we've reached a clear scientific consensus: 97% of working climate scientists agree with the view that human beings are causing global warming.

gwb-trading said:
Anyone who was paying the slightest bit of attention 30 years ago knows that "global cooling" was all the rage...

Cavuto: When I first became a global warming 'doubter'
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-...to-when-i-first-became-global-warming-doubter

I don't know how you feel about this global warming issue.

But I first became a doubter when they re-branded the issue and started calling it climate change.

It was brilliant on environmentalists' part because it covered any contingency. Warming, cooling, raining, misting, everything.

After all, climate's always changing, so try arguing that one.

But let's remember how all this started.

With dire predictions of warmer winters and soon, no winters, and if we didn't do anything about it, no us either.

So forget about whether they were calling it global warming then or climate change now, we, mankind had to do something about it, and fast.

But wait a minute. I think I've heard this dire talk before. Not about the earth warming, about the earth cooling.

Thirty-something years ago it was all the rage. And I should know, thirty-something years ago today I graduated high school. (do you really think I'm going to tell you the exact number) Did any of us look like the world was about to end? I didn't know it. And look at my mom and dad? Do they look like they knew it?

Thank god Leonard Nimoy knew it, and in this super scary TV special back in May 1978, Spock wasn't afraid to say it.

"The next Ice Age is on its way and could come sooner than anyone had expected. At weather stations in the far north temperatures have been dropping for 30 years. According to some climatologists, within a lifetime we might be living in the next Ice Age"

Is it over?

But it wasn't over, and it didn't stop with Spock. I'm telling you this was the whole 1970s. I lived through it!

And all this time you thought all I had to worry about was leisure suits.

Try this not so leisurely warning on May 21,1975, from the New York Times warning about "a major cooling ahead."

Or this time magazine cover from December. 3, 1973 warning about "The Big Freeze."

And in case anyone missed it, this other Time Magazine cover. Different picture. Same warning, January 31, 1977.

And just in case anyone missed those, a cozy Christmas cover, heralding, "The Cooling of America."

Not to be out-done, rival Newsweek on April 28, 1975 detailed ominous signs of "The Cooling World," including this uplifting nugget, "If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic."

So now I'm freezing and starving!

No Yodels. No Ring Dings. No anything!

Food gone. Freeze on.

Everyone reported it. Nobody questioned it. The entire scientific community in lockstep with it. And doubters were idiots if they denied it.

Governments had better get cracking, or humans would be all but frozen in their evolutionary tracks.

Well? Not quite.

So maybe that's why me and my parents didn't look so panicked back then.

Maybe that's why you didn't see one strand of my Lego hair out of place back then.

We weren't oblivious. We were onto this.

But that was then.

We wouldn't be so stupid now.

Or would we?
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In the 1970s, the most comprehensive study on climate change (and the closest thing to a scientific consensus at the time) was the 1975 US National Academy of Sciences/National Research Council Report. Their basic conclusion was "…we do not have a good quantitative understanding of our climate machine and what determines its course. Without the fundamental understanding, it does not seem possible to predict climate…"

This is in strong contrast with the current position of the US National Academy of Sciences: "...there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring... It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities... The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action." This is in a joint statement with the Academies of Science from Brazil, France, Canada, China, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Russia and the United Kingdom.
 
Oh, and CO2 is what again? Say it with me! A GREENHOUSE GAS.

A greenhouse gas (sometimes abbreviated GHG) is a gas in an atmosphere that absorbs and emits radiation within the thermal infrared range. This process is the fundamental cause of the greenhouse effect.[1] The primary greenhouse gases in the Earth's atmosphere are water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and ozone. Greenhouse gases greatly affect the temperature of the Earth; without them, Earth's surface would average about 33 °C colder, which is about 59 °F below the present average of 14 °C (57 °F).[2][3][4]
 
futurecurrents said:
I wonder what could be causing the sudden atmospheric CO2 rise? What do think jerm? GWB? How about it you right wing morons! Any idea? Guesses?


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The increase in CO2 in the atmosphere is well within historical means when you look at the level of the thousands of years. There have been previous periods of high CO2 and high temperature (which are not necessarily correlated). The rate which CO2 has risen recently is nothing to be concerned about.

As someone posting in a trading forum, I hope you have some basic understanding about average, standard deviation, and trend. Plotting CO2 & temperature on a chart over the long term using proper axises demonstrate the reality that is there no global warming crisis. It will also show that temperature usually leads CO2.

How come the global warming alarmist morons ignore the fact that the global temperature has not increased for over 17 years? The more likely concern is that we will be in a naturally occurring mini-ice age 30 years from now.
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gwb-trading said:
Anyone who was paying the slightest bit of attention 30 years ago knows that "global cooling" was all the rage...

Cavuto: When I first became a global warming 'doubter'
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/your-...to-when-i-first-became-global-warming-doubter

I don't know how you feel about this global warming issue.

But I first became a doubter when they re-branded the issue and started calling it climate change.

It was brilliant on environmentalists' part because it covered any contingency. Warming, cooling, raining, misting, everything.

After all, climate's always changing, so try arguing that one.

But let's remember how all this started.

With dire predictions of warmer winters and soon, no winters, and if we didn't do anything about it, no us either.

So forget about whether they were calling it global warming then or climate change now, we, mankind had to do something about it, and fast.

But wait a minute. I think I've heard this dire talk before. Not about the earth warming, about the earth cooling.

Thirty-something years ago it was all the rage. And I should know, thirty-something years ago today I graduated high school. (do you really think I'm going to tell you the exact number) Did any of us look like the world was about to end? I didn't know it. And look at my mom and dad? Do they look like they knew it?

Thank god Leonard Nimoy knew it, and in this super scary TV special back in May 1978, Spock wasn't afraid to say it.

"The next Ice Age is on its way and could come sooner than anyone had expected. At weather stations in the far north temperatures have been dropping for 30 years. According to some climatologists, within a lifetime we might be living in the next Ice Age"

Is it over?

But it wasn't over, and it didn't stop with Spock. I'm telling you this was the whole 1970s. I lived through it!

And all this time you thought all I had to worry about was leisure suits.

Try this not so leisurely warning on May 21,1975, from the New York Times warning about "a major cooling ahead."

Or this time magazine cover from December. 3, 1973 warning about "The Big Freeze."

And in case anyone missed it, this other Time Magazine cover. Different picture. Same warning, January 31, 1977.

And just in case anyone missed those, a cozy Christmas cover, heralding, "The Cooling of America."

Not to be out-done, rival Newsweek on April 28, 1975 detailed ominous signs of "The Cooling World," including this uplifting nugget, "If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic."

So now I'm freezing and starving!

No Yodels. No Ring Dings. No anything!

Food gone. Freeze on.

Everyone reported it. Nobody questioned it. The entire scientific community in lockstep with it. And doubters were idiots if they denied it.

Governments had better get cracking, or humans would be all but frozen in their evolutionary tracks.

Well? Not quite.

So maybe that's why me and my parents didn't look so panicked back then.

Maybe that's why you didn't see one strand of my Lego hair out of place back then.

We weren't oblivious. We were onto this.

But that was then.

We wouldn't be so stupid now.

Or would we?
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Of course Futurecurrents has just posted endless pages of crap but he never addressed the above except to shovel the debunked nonsense that in the 1970s that there were 6 times the scientists claiming the world as warming than cooling. As someone who lived through the 1970s I can tell you this is simply not true.
 
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