No allegation basically means:
"We didn't say anything about Americans colluding in these indictments"
13 Russian nationals indicted for interfering in US elections
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No allegation basically means:
"We didn't say anything about Americans colluding in these indictments"
Id be willing to bet though i cant be sure that there were other governments who spent more than 100k trying to advertise on facebook...... You hit the nail on the head, there is tens of millions of non citizens around the world talking about U.S. politics, (myself included) but supposedly 100k of Russian facebook ads is beyond the pale..... lol its just comical.
Id be willing to bet if you put a dollar amount on all of the foreign agencies and interest groups who spent money on the internet trying to influence the election in one way or the other the number would be in the hundreds of millions if not billions.
Id be willing to bet that There was lots of groups supporting NAFTA who advertised during the elction on the internet, id be willing to bet there is lots of groups who supported the paris climate accord who advertised during the election, id be willing to bet my life, that neither of those groups spent less than 100k..........
To imply 100k in facebook ads is even statistically relevant is laughable to begin with, but to imply 100k in facebook ads swung an election is just downright comical.
Supposedly the Russians are the shrewdest operators of the internet we have ever seen, they are getting more than 1 vote per dollar, fuck that 1/100th of a cent per click stuff the russians know how marketing is done.
They had a lot of dedicated employees on the project including a graphics department. You don't need to spend a lot if it is of viral quality and willing dupes spread it for you.
Less is more to reduce exposure.
That is even assuming Facebook etc counted it accurately and likely they only caught a portion. It seems they had a large network of proxy servers in the US to foil source tracking.
Hahahahahahahahaha 100k of Russian facebook ads swung the election...... and half of them supported liberals, you guys are such a joke.
Id be willing to bet though i cant be sure that there were other governments who spent more than 100k trying to advertise on facebook...... You hit the nail on the head, there is tens of millions of non citizens around the world talking about U.S. politics, (myself included) but supposedly 100k of Russian facebook ads is beyond the pale..... lol its just comical.
Id be willing to bet if you put a dollar amount on all of the foreign agencies and interest groups who spent money on the internet trying to influence the election in one way or the other the number would be in the hundreds of millions if not billions.
Id be willing to bet that There was lots of groups supporting NAFTA who advertised during the elction on the internet, id be willing to bet there is lots of groups who supported the paris climate accord who advertised during the election, id be willing to bet my life, that neither of those groups spent less than 100k..........
To imply 100k in facebook ads is even statistically relevant is laughable to begin with, but to imply 100k in facebook ads swung an election is just downright comical.
Supposedly the Russians are the shrewdest operators of the internet we have ever seen, they are getting more than 1 vote per dollar, fuck that 1/100th of a cent per click stuff the russians know how marketing is done, 1 click 1 vote.
C'mon now:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/30/media/russia-facebook-126-million-users/index.html
LOL, 126 million seems like a big number until you compare it to the internet, when you consider how many people can share stuff, a massive number of people are going to see it. So is your implication That Russia with 100000 in face book ads swung an election?
Given the fact that campaigns generally spend around a billion dollars, why dont they just put it all into facebook ads next election? If 100k changed 100 million peoples minds, a billion could change the entire universes minds.
So Russia swung an election with 1/10000th of what Hillary spent? Someone should hire Russia they are apparently the best political operatives in history.
Btw, Russia didnt even spend a hundred k on the election, more than half of the money was spent before Trump even got nominated, the Russians were dumping money into shit that was divisive like the NRA and Black lives matter, they were doing it well before the election, so the real number isnt even a hundred k for trump its probably less than 50.
Not exactly sure where 100k figure comes from, but Trump won by what, 40k votes that won him the electoral votes?
If you've convinced Bernie Bros to stay home because "Hillary is corrupt" and because the DNC showed bias for her and you hack and leak those details, and you convince enough right wingers that she's running pedophile rings from Pizza parlors, and you hack and release more details about an ongoing email investigation.
Yeah, entirely possible
Max, lets for a moment assume either is not actually stupid.
It won't have been much in the way of ads (though it may have been millions, yet to see), supplying intelligently creative memes, clever arguments beyond the intellect of US trailer trash etc. would have helped an awful lot. Co-coordinating marches..
Trump had a small core staff, it is somewhat about numbers but they had a lot of help.
Swinging the election? The margin swinging the electoral was truly tiny however Hillary had a few own-goals that really took away her massive advantage.
It may have been enough in reality. Two things will haunt them, Hillary's "Deplorables" comment and Trump's "Russia, if you are listening".
Regardless, the first results are in. Putin is exposed and his similar actions in Europe will now have even more attention.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-days-of-his-campaign/?utm_term=.e9378c27ad81
Here from the Washington Post, 100k, other sites have done a better job of breaking down where it got spent like i said more than half was spent before trumps nomination.......
Its a pretty weak argument saying "Well the election was won by this amount" There is very easily quantifiable numbers on internet marketing....... theres a reason Hillary didnt spend all she had on facebook, "Pay per click" advertising haS less than 1 in 100 success rate........ GWB could attest to this.
so you take 100k, cut it in half since 50 was spent before the election, now you are saying that the russians with 50k managed to swing the election......
Hillary spent 500 million more than Trump why didnt she just pour it all into facebook ads?