10% unemployment but H1B visas accelerating

Quote from Anaconda:

Not too bright, are you?

It's significantly more expensive to hire HB1s than offshore. If they are hiring HB1s, then it's obvious that the site cannot be offshored and neither can the labor.

Your argument falls flat on its face.

So what's your point? Should US govt. make rules to force companies to hire laid-off workers for those positions?

With the increased life-standard in the developing nations, this cost benefit is not very attractive. Companies usually do not save more than 20-40% by outsourcing. So they tend to keep their critical operations local and move other not-so-critical operations offshore. If you make a tougher regulations, they'll also fly...

Admit it, live with it.

Happy trading :-)
 
Arguing with H1B cheerleaders is pointless because most of them are open border immigration advocates hiding their true agenda behind bullshit economic arguments. Their entire theory resolves around an assumption that by bringing a diverse group of people (different ethnic groups) into the US, they can avert potential future nationalism, and by doing so, America would maintain a soft and a gentler society. But this is wishful thinking, because as resource competition between groups increases, so does group identity and ethnic conflicts.
 
Quote from indexer:

By the way, India will not allow lower cost foreigners to outsource jobs in their country.

that's exactly right

indians are shameless 2 faced scum - fucking parasites to the USA

India to Chinese investors: No more visas, hire Indians
16 Sep 2009, 1919 hrs IST, Saibal Dasgupta, TNN

BEIJING: Chinese investors should employ more Indians to run their projects in India instead of carrying large number of workers from China. This Forex Converter
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is New Delhi’s latest response to complaints concerning India’s reluctance to grant enough visas for Chinese workers.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...re-visas-hire-Indians/articleshow/5019220.cms
 
Quote from lemeeeplay:

Arguing with H1B cheerleaders is pointless because most of them are open border immigration advocates hiding their true agenda behind bullshit economic arguments. Their entire theory resolves around an assumption that by bringing a diverse group of people (different ethnic groups) into the US, they can avert potential future nationalism, and by doing so, America would maintain a soft and a gentler society. But this is wishful thinking, because as resource competition between groups increases, so does group identity and ethnic conflicts.

it's not even wishfull thinking - it's raw 5th column invasion
 
Quote from lemeeeplay:

Arguing with H1B cheerleaders is pointless because most of them are open border immigration advocates hiding their true agenda behind bullshit economic arguments. Their entire theory resolves around an assumption that by bringing a diverse group of people (different ethnic groups) into the US, they can avert potential future nationalism, and by doing so, America would maintain a soft and a gentler society. But this is wishful thinking, because as resource competition between groups increases, so does group identity and ethnic conflicts.

If you move your clock 50-100 years back, you'll also find yourself an immigrant. Anyway...

Companies will do what works for them.

Govt. will do what gets vote for them.

IRS will continue to outsource their work.

And we'll always bitch about them. That is the least we can do.

Oh, wait... That is the most we can do ;-)
 
Quote from Misthos:

It's called nationalism dumbass. Despite globalization, we still have countries. We vote in them, we protect them, we develop them. So yes, having an "American First" policy in America is not such a crazy idea, is it?

You like hiring foreigners?

Than why the fuck don't you go to Calcutta (Kolkata) and get the hell out of the USA? Hire all the foreigners you want. Deal with their plumbing and electricity shortages... deal with their diseases... Shit in a hole in the ground. Wipe your ass with stale newspaper.

Americans made this country great FOR AMERICANS. Importing cheap labor from areas of the world that have yet to develop on their own is the equivalent of importing their POVERTY.

Treasonous Dumbass.

I'm not aganst immigration... but H1B and Outsourcing will have longterm effects... just wait and see. And it won't be pretty as this depression unfolds.

Listen, Fuctard, All these AMERICANS you're frothing at the mouth about because you're too stupid to defend your argument logically were ALL IMMIGRANTS.

'nuff said.
 
Quote from TraderSU:

If you move your clock 50-100 years back, you'll also find yourself an immigrant. Anyway...


oh, out comes the 'we're all immigrants' arguement, right on schedule

try 160 years for me

and it was my great great grandfather, not me who was an immigrant

and your areguement pre-supposes that an offer available at one time, is available perpeutually

i'd love to be able to by florida coastland at the price people bought it after the 1920s land bust

but i cant - you know why? becasue they got their first, and their decendents make the rules on what is available at what terms - it's THEIRS, not MINE

get it?

if the citizens of the United states dont have a right to a voice on their own immigration policies, then who?
 
Quote from Angrycat:

Listen, Fuctard, All these AMERICANS you're frothing at the mouth about because you're too stupid to defend your argument logically were ALL IMMIGRANTS.

'nuff said.

what's your country of birth?
 
Quote from swtrader:

child raping Indian H-1bs caught by Chris Hansen of dateline NBC's 'to catch a predator'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPVG2dt8tS0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uyDJd84G78&feature=related

Yep. because there are no American born pedofiles.

I see this thread has been taken over by xenophobes ready to paint their faces and do the rain dance for their tribes instead of facing the reality of a competitive world market - including a competitive labour market. It's useless to argue with that lot.

I will leave you with this, though. The countries that practice protectionism protect themselves only from prosperity and peace. Muslims in America are much less angry and better assimilated than Muslims in Europe because America tends to be a country of immigrants who are open to other immigrants (you lot excepted, of course). European countries have a lower standard of living, lower wages and higher long-term unemployment and more inter-group unrest as a result of their rigid policies. I know. I lived there.

Americans generally embrace anyone who wants to work hard who is friendly to them. That's what made this country great. Open immigration or not, somebody is hiring those Mexicans to do low skill work where it's too expensive to hire Americans - and that's besides the H1-B issue. In return, Americans get cheaper goods.

You can scream that it's unfair that foreign workers are hired all you want. The reality is that if you're not competitive, you wont' be hired. Full stop.

C ya'.
 
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