1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

If a trading tax comes in then the business will up and off to where it's still permitted. And therefore no tax revenues from that quarter. Do the politicians really think farmers etc. can fill the gap - I hope not. But they have done dafter things like Prohibition
 
Even though the FTT appears to be dead-in-the-water in Europe for now, it's not going away -- either here in the US or in the EU.

It will rear it's ugly head in the US because it has the support (and massive campaign money) from all the major unions. I expect that every candidate running with union support in the 2012 election will be touting the mystical healing powers of the FTT.

A bit of irony that may work in our favor is that the three major US financial centers (New York, NY; Chicago, IL; and San Francisco, CA) are all in heavily liberal democratic districts and states. No matter how much they hate Wall Street, I don't see the representatives of these states being anxious to vote to kill the goose that lays their golden eggs (tens of billions in federal and state income and capital gains taxes). But if the Democrats were to win a landslide victory with the backing of the unions, it could become a serious issue because the candidates will then owe the unions big-time. The unions, after taking a beating in recent years, will be out for Wall Street blood.


Quote from listedguru:

We need to be ready for the libs to start pushing the ftt again in the us. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before Defazio floats out his DOA ftt plan (LOL).

-Guru
 
"THE European Commission would put forward "concrete and serious" proposals for a tax on financial transactions in the next few days, a French official said yesterday". "Now, with the EU moving towards adopting the tax, a main avenue of escape for US traders — to London or Frankfurt, for instance — could be cut off, leaving them with a shorter list of places to which they could credibly threaten to flee".

http://www.businessday.co.za/Articles/Content.aspx?id=155187
 
??? Has anybody ever heard of a US trader threatening to flee to Europe? Apparently there are ...LOL.

All these socialists have no clue, they still think the financial world is the US and Europe. They don't realize how huge Seoul, Hong Kong, Singapore, Shanghai, Mumbai, Dubai... are becoming.
 
Quote from andohmeeta:

"THE European Commission would put forward "concrete and serious" proposals for a tax on financial transactions in the next few days, a French official said yesterday". "Now, with the EU moving towards adopting the tax, a main avenue of escape for US traders — to London or Frankfurt, for instance — could be cut off, leaving them with a shorter list of places to which they could credibly threaten to flee".

http://www.businessday.co.za/Articles/Content.aspx?id=155187




I'll simply go back to day trading U.S. Treasury Bonds. Since I'm in the U.S.A., these Euro douche bags can kiss my American, non-FTT paying ass!!!!! :D
 
Quote from Businessman:

The UK has a bank levy to hit the banking sector directly, other european countries could introduce similar levies.
The FTT is not really about raising huge revenue, although it is sold that way, it is more of an attack on capitalism and short term speculation which the socialists despise and want to destroy. The FTT is a direct attack on day traders and short term hedge funds as well as short term bank trading.


bingo. and that is why it will go into effect, first in europe, then in the u.s.

eventually, of course, it will be repealed -- after domestic capital markets have been decimated, resulting in a net decline in tax revenues. but that will be 20-30 years from now.
 
Quote from Explorer:

http://europa.eu/pol/tax/index_en.htm

[...]Value-added tax (VAT) is a partial exception and requires a degree of EU involvement as it is fundamental to a properly functioning single market and fair competition across the EU. The EU has therefore set common rules for the operation of VAT, and a lower limit on the VAT rates that can be charged.

The above wording is very sneaky...at first glance it reads as if VAT almost beneficial to citizens("fair competition"), but on closer inspection the rules state that no EU nation is allowed to cut their own VAT rate BELOW a certain level (15% VAT).

So if I buy a laptop from the US for $1000 within the EU, I just hand over another $150+ for the pleasure. That is the best that I can get! Every EU nation state cannot bypass this minimum tax. WTF?

So much for tax competition within the EU...
:mad: :(

This latest move to sell FTT as a version of VAT to get round any UK/Swedish/Dutch opposition is a worrying development since they already have a time tested framework for stiffing their own citizens and preventing tax competition which is deemed "unfair".
 
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