1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Quote from vicirek:

GOP platform opposes FTT and other global UN taxes. You guys better vote this time and make no mistake like four years ago.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/22/gop-platform-opposes-un-tax-plans-levies-infringe-/

Yup. The GOP is the last hope for our sovereignty and the Cobstitution. I sure hope the past four years and this whole FTT debacle had opened up some people's eyes to what the democrats are really about. They absolutely want total control of your life and the whole UN circle jerk is pretty damn scary.

Vote GOP and get theses f*cking liberal democrat marxist socialists out of office! This is just not about FTT, it's about the world vision these pansies want, which is f*cking frightening!
 
This is from an interview with Commisioner Semeta in International Tax Review that I received today.
ITR: What progress is being made on FTT?
AS. It has now been confirmed by finance ministers that, although unanimity cannot be reached on the FTT, there is a strong number of member states which still want to push ahead with at EU-level.
Therefore, the ball is now in member states court to make an official request for enhanced cooperation. The member states in question must send a formal request request to Commision setteng out scope and objectives what thet want to do through enhanced cooperation. From discussions in ECOFIN, and with individual member states, I beleive that the Commision´s proposal is seen as the right basis to proceed, even if it is decided to take a more gradual approach than we had initially foreseen.
I was always a strong advocate of an FTT for all 27 member states, as I am convinced that this is the best way to achieve its objectives and to respond to the calls of citizens right across Europe.
However, if this is not possible, enhanced cooperation on FTT is definitely the next-best solution. The Commission is ready to respond quickly to any request for enhanced cooperation, and support all efforts to make an EU FTT a reality.
 
EU is a bureaucratic mess and this guys speak their own dialect.

In the US we have a chance to fight FTT now by supporting GOP platform which is against FTT and all other global/UN//EU tax ideas.
 
Quote from kalinka:

This is from an interview with Commisioner Semeta in International Tax Review that I received today.
ITR: What progress is being made on FTT?
AS. It has now been confirmed by finance ministers that, although unanimity cannot be reached on the FTT, there is a strong number of member states which still want to push ahead with at EU-level.
Therefore, the ball is now in member states court to make an official request for enhanced cooperation. The member states in question must send a formal request request to Commision setteng out scope and objectives what thet want to do through enhanced cooperation. From discussions in ECOFIN, and with individual member states, I beleive that the Commision´s proposal is seen as the right basis to proceed, even if it is decided to take a more gradual approach than we had initially foreseen.
I was always a strong advocate of an FTT for all 27 member states, as I am convinced that this is the best way to achieve its objectives and to respond to the calls of citizens right across Europe.
However, if this is not possible, enhanced cooperation on FTT is definitely the next-best solution. The Commission is ready to respond quickly to any request for enhanced cooperation, and support all efforts to make an EU FTT a reality.

Thanks for the above. Semeta seems weaker than he has been over FTT in the past. It sounds like the individual countries now must carry the ball to forge the EU 9 enhanced cooperation for FTT. Who is stepping forward first - over the abyss - in the middle of a financial crisis in Europe? France did, and they aren't doing well since they started their tax attack on the rich and finance.

Dictating EU suggestions for FTT or otherwise from his perch was too easy, let's see if individual countries now carry the ball, which is probably much harder. If Greece leaves the euro and the EU suffers cracks, why should these EC9 countries work on common EU enhanced cooperation tax policy now? Who even understands how that might work? There are too many unknowns and too much uncertainty.

Germany has their hands tied up with their push for fiscal union and ECB QE bailouts which is already threatening Merkel's governing coalition. The Bundesbank vs. ECB war of words is all they can take. Germany can't afford to throw FTT fuel on that fire now.

Hopefully, FTT will be iced for now.
 
Quote from Robert A. Green:

Semeta seems weaker than he has been over FTT in the past... Hopefully, FTT will be iced for now.

A friend of mine who lives in Sweden recently sent me an email in which he described Semeta as "an incompetent and delusional bureaucrat." My friend believes that if there's an enhanced agreement FTT in Europe it's likely to be "for show" only and will be extremely limited in nature if it happens at all.
 
Quote from tomdavis:

A friend of mine who lives in Sweden recently sent me an email in which he described Semeta as "an incompetent and delusional bureaucrat." My friend believes that if there's an enhanced agreement FTT in Europe it's likely to be "for show" only and will be extremely limited in nature if it happens at all.
"For Show" is a good one.
Today I checked out some those french stocks from the list subject to FTT: http://ibkb.interactivebrokers.com/node/1963
I wanted to see if the introduction had any impact on their daily trading volume.
Most of the stocks I checked out had about 1/3rd less trading volume in the month of August compared the their average of their preceeding 12 months.
But some, especially insurance comapnies, weren't affected at all. No decline in trading volume.
But maybe I should wait until year end or until next August to have a better view on the overall average data.
 
Quote from muller:

"For Show" is a good one.
Today I checked out some those french stocks from the list subject to FTT: http://ibkb.interactivebrokers.com/node/1963
I wanted to see if the introduction had any impact on their daily trading volume.
Most of the stocks I checked out had about 1/3rd less trading volume in the month of August compared the their average of their preceeding 12 months.
But some, especially insurance comapnies, weren't affected at all. No decline in trading volume.
But maybe I should wait until year end or until next August to have a better view on the overall average data.

Because August can be quiet comparing it with the 12 month average may be misleading.

If you are interested, I would suggest a month on month comparison. Say, Feb 2012 vs Feb 2011 through to August. If August MOM volume is down and earlier months are not, then I would say there is something there.

A bit of work I know and ordinarily I would be delighted to work the numbers but I am up to my eyeballs in new stuff so the best I can do is suggest.
 
Quote from justrading:

Because August can be quiet comparing it with the 12 month average may be misleading.

If you are interested, I would suggest a month on month comparison. Say, Feb 2012 vs Feb 2011 through to August. If August MOM volume is down and earlier months are not, then I would say there is something there.

A bit of work I know and ordinarily I would be delighted to work the numbers but I am up to my eyeballs in new stuff so the best I can do is suggest.

I don't think volume is the best measure of the impact of the FTT because of the exclusions.

Three things I'll be anxious to see are: (a) How much FTT revenue is actually collected (the French Finance Ministry projected 1.1 billion euros each year); (b) the FTT's effect on volatility (the gov't said that it would reduce volatility); (c) Who is actually paying the tax: "evil" bankers, pensions, insurance companies, non-financial hedgers, impact on cost of capital, etc.
 
Quote from tomdavis:

I don't think volume is the best measure of the impact of the FTT because of the exclusions.

Three things I'll be anxious to see are: (a) How much FTT revenue is actually collected (the French Finance Ministry projected 1.1 billion euros each year); (b) the FTT's effect on volatility (the gov't said that it would reduce volatility); (c) Who is actually paying the tax: "evil" bankers, pensions, insurance companies, non-financial hedgers, impact on cost of capital, etc.

Agreed but as I explained in an earlier post, reduced volume could be an indicator of less tax collected. Until we get access to the bottom line, indicators will be of interest.
 
here is proof that governments never learn.



Yesterday, 1st September 2012

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Spanish arts fear tax hike tipping point

Spanish art institutions, already feeling the pinch of funding cuts, fear a steep hike in taxes on tickets to cultural events from Saturday could push them over the edge.

As of Sept. 1, Spain’s tax rate for a range of cultural activities will jump to 21 percent from 8 percent as part of a wider government plan to boost revenues, cut the deficit and avoid a full-blown European bailout.



Spain, which has produced Oscar-winning film director Pedro Almodovar and best-selling novelist Carlos Ruiz Zafon, has been crippled by a debt crisis following the abrupt collapse of a property boom in 2008 and is in the grips of its second recession in just a few years.

The arts industry warns that the tax hike will lead to a sharp drop in spectators, the closure of cinemas and yet more job losses in a country where unemployment is already running at 25 percent.

“The tax hike is a major setback for the development of Spanish arts and seriously injures a sector with huge economic and job potential,” the Spanish Society for Authors and Composers (SGAE) said.

It wants Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy to go back to the drawing board.

More than 4,000 business associations in the culture industry have asked the government to grant a six-month moratorium at Friday’s cabinet meeting in a last-minute bid to save an industry that accounts for 4 percent of gross domestic product and 550,000 jobs.

The associations , grouped together as UAEICE, said the tax hike would drive away 43 million spectators, cost 530 million euros ($662 million) in lost ticket sales, 4,500 jobs and lead to the closure of 20 percent of music, film and scenic art companies.

And, according to a study by global accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC), the government will have less than nothing to show for it, as its annual take from the arts would actually fall by nearly 10 million euros after the tax hike.

Similar tax increases on cultural activities in the Netherlands, Hungary and Portugal hurt tax revenues, forcing those governments to retract, PwC said.

Opposition parties have also pleaded with the ruling conservative People’s Party to reconsider the new rule, which moves cultural activities into a general tax rate category from a reduced rate. But under huge EU pressure to cut costs, Rajoy is unlikely to change tack.

The new tax will be double the 10.1 percent average rate for the arts in the euro zone, according to newspaper El Pais.

of course, the pollyannas will focus on this" Similar tax increases on cultural activities in the Netherlands, Hungary and Portugal hurt tax revenues, forcing those governments to retract, PwC said."
there is a difference. most people love the arts. the general populace dislikes anything connected to the bankers and are in favor of the ftt.
 
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