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I believe the logic here as follows: When 1140 eob IBGS is completed there's a clear and unambiguous signal from the market that tells you whether or not you can put pt1 on that bar. Something has to do with change on traverse level. Red color denotes the concept I don't have an understanding...

Not always.

On the other hand it looks like a Peak Volume prior to IBGS on decreased volume 1140 eob.:confused: To fan or not to fan, that's the question:D

Something does not feel right about this view. We have a formation BO on increased volume with failure to show more volume on the next bar. So trend did not change. We have to fan outward (decelerate). Right?

As it is always the case, the emotions give meaning to the words and not the other way around. Consider the possibility that an alternative explanation exists for a 'perceived' shift of emphasis in vocabulary. And that an intent is to help get across the concepts of change vs. continuation and...

ES 09-08 8/1/2008 (5 Min)

Just an observation. The signs you're are taking about are the signs of severe emotional reaction in response to perceived lack of progress. The temporary alternative reality created in your brain excludes all reason and logic right now. Re-read Spydertrader's advice on taking a break and...

You misunderstood the intent of my comments. I simply thought that the exchange beween treeline and Spydertrader may provide an additional clarity for you as it did for me.

:D I cheated: Since we 'see' this traverse as having a very steep slope and a very narrow width, we expect to 'see' the market indicate a need to 'fan' out our traverse (hence the BO on decreasing Volume followed by a Sym Pennant)...

:D Guilty as charged. As a side note, what I have found quite illuminating, is an accidental exercise, I call the "Avi 8" drill. I had all his posts copied in a word doc a few months ago, because I found them to be very helpful. Upon reviewing them again a few days ago I discovered something...

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2008496#post2008496 You asked: My answer, after thinking about it for a while is this: You may be addressing the question: "What constitutes a traverse, and what is not" in a wrong way. After reading some of the comments recently...

I see, what you mean. Thank you for pointing out an obvious mistake on my part. I forgot that trends do not overlap at pt2.:)

I guess I really have to forget what I think I know. Three traverses, one of them is in the opposite direction of the other two. Something else is necessary to create a channel?

Try this one for Formation BO: --------------------------------------------- 07-26-08 01:41 AM

Both. I moved the first blue FTT annotation to the appropriate place and added two missing FTT's, for the dominant blue traverse in the green channel, and for the non-dom black traverse in the same green up channel, both in boxes with red background. I can't figure out, however, the FTT for...

I am beginning to understand how he feels. It's like a crowd wandering in a desert, slowly dehydrating themselves to death. He stumbles on a huge body of fresh water, I mean really big, enough to last all men, women, children and even small f*cking animals. So, as any decent human being would...

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