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  1. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Learn to read, will you? Karl Marx was the arch enemy of liberalism. Karl Marx was the beginning of modern communism. Liberalism was the beginning of modern capitalism. So if you think Karl Marx was a liberal, then you're confusing capitalism with communism. Sometimes, when you interrupt a...
  2. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    When after I repeatedly telling you that I respect your belief, and ask you do the same, you refused. Now you have the shame to come back and ask who respects others' religion?
  3. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Instead of trash-talking, why don't you own up to your mistake and admit that you have confused capitalism with communism?
  4. J

    Who is the Dem choice?

    Really? She is pro-evolution (famous quote "what we need are darwinian principles"), and pro-abortion, http://www.margaretthatcher.org/speeches/displaydocument.asp?docid=103793 I think she would lose much of conservative Christian votes on these two counts.
  5. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    You really have a difficulty with reading. And a quite a bit of ignorance with history. It's a fact that a true conservative does not respect others' religion until that respect is "earned." Your so-called famous quote, is from Karl Marx, the arch enemy of liberalism. It just exposes your...
  6. J

    Who is the Dem choice?

    It's only relative - they do better than men do. :D
  7. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    There is an obvious difference between a liberal and a conservative. A liberal always respects others' religions. A conservative doesn't. His respect has to be "earned." If he doesn't agree with your religion, he doesn't respect you.
  8. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    It's your definition against mine. I respect your belief that your definition is the only valid one. But same goes for you. You have to respect my belief that my definition is the only valid one. So I call 76.5% of Americans Christians, while you call only 32% of them Christians. There is no...
  9. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Hey, it's your claim against theirs. Which side should I believe?
  10. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Therein lies the real truth. So it is your belief that Baptists and Roman Catholics hold mutually exclusive beliefs. That defines the meaning of your "mutually exclusive." I have no further argument.
  11. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    No, I didn't write the wikipedia definition. Just thought it would be convenient. You're confusing the concept of liberalism, which is what's defined here, with derived beliefs or principles that many liberals may hold. The problem is, they may not agree among themselves on those secondary...
  12. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    You proved it for me here. I don't think that there is any dispute that the early Church was very much communist. No I didn't mean the Eastern Orthodox Church.
  13. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Yes you can! According to ARIS (see my post above), Christians account for 76.5% of all Americans. On the other hand, only 32% of total population self-identify themselves as conservative (see the poll below). So you can certainly be a Christian without being a conservative...
  14. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    This kind of ignorance is shocking. Do you know how many Christians are in this country? According to the most recent ARIS study (that stands for American Religion Identification Study), the Christian population accounts for 76.5% of total Americans. Don't tell me that 76.5% of Americans are...
  15. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Because of modern communism and its complete failure, people have forgotten that the original Orthodox Christian Church was in fact, communist. The Church had its own Christian communism and the faithful held everything common, as the Acts of the Apostles says. We should keep in mind, that...
  16. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    I didn't even see that you said anything meaningful. I was correcting your confusion. Me: (quoting wikipedia) Liberalism believes liberty as a primary virtue. You: Except when someone disagrees with you then you're blacklisted. Me: Don't confuse liberalism with extremism. You: You cannot...
  17. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Note the curious choice of words here: "conservative christians." So you agree that there are also "liberal christians." "Liberals" don't think you can find out who Jesus is from some liberal website somewhere. Lazy people do. Read the bible again. You'll be surprised how much Jesus agreed...
  18. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Don't confuse extreme left with liberalism. The extreme left and the extreme right are the same (ever heard of facism?)
  19. J

    Who is the Dem choice?

    Yes, Lieberman votes 90% liberal (about the same as Hillary). McCain is about 60% conservative. Whether you call that difference large depends on what "large" means. Both are pretty liberal.
  20. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    To be more specific, here is the wikipedia definition of "liberal:" "Liberalism is an ideology, philosophical view, and political tradition which holds that liberty is the primary political value. Liberalism has its roots in the Western Enlightenment, but the term now encompasses a diversity of...
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