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today there was a real battle in the curve I think flatteners may have come off due to non-belief in this bailout package. It was all over the place today and steepeners seem to have been put back on. All I know is that recently I have been spreading a lot more cash/futures along the curve...

see how Paulson waited till his boys (GS) were getting hit? MS just a beneficiary of the GOLD-MAN bailout! He could have saved Merrill and Lehman but he didn't! If there is one thing to learn is this world it's not "don't f%ck with the Je-sus," -big labowski. It's "don't f%ck with the...

wow limit up in spooz nice, bondo down 3.5 handles wow!

No Lehman, no Bear, Black boxes turned off as hedge funds scramble for money it will be back not like two years ago but we should see the TY 1000 by 1500 again and the bondo with 300 by 500 again I hope because right now a thousand lot can move the market (ZB) 8-10 ticks which is just rediculous!

Morgan Stanley's CD Swaps pushed out to 1000 basis points this is just crazy....they are trying to blow everyone out but Paulson will protect GS you know this!

wow I hope y'all out there didn't get your face ripped off! 30 year Cash yield went under 4% for the first time EVER!

unless you know someone with edge in an options pit don't bother if you are trading futures better be on the screen, my buddies say that edge with size is back in ES but you won't have access to this as you will not trade size as you are clerking making someone millions until the pit sucks...

CHAOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get in and get out and hope your...

as someone who trades the live markets everyday (Treasury, equity and energy futures) I can say without a doubt that joe's Levels are good and I use them with my own to as everyone who trades should have their own opinion out what they are doing. That being said he has a great grasp of what is...

I think the Ten Year might stall at 3.50% we are close, agree with you on ZB Z8 at some point there will be profit taking even though there are still huge foreign buyers of our paper.

Trichet adds a 12% haircut on ABS, that is very abrasive, bad for banks to raise money, buy the curve sell spooz we broke 1260 look out below. It will get even worse if NFP is not great.

this market is all about credit, with spreads widening money coming out of agencies and going into the curve. treasuries are bid (China) if the spooz break out of this range (1260-1300) on the downside watch out and do not be short the curve.

FYI- dec is topstep

lost my whole day in 30 seconds thank you end of month buying! You f$cked me good this time!

that would be a sale btw (prices go up yield goes down, prices go down yield goes up) please refer to bond thread below we talk about ZB and ZN as well as cash.

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sell sell sell sell sell wow that was a liquidation looks like they are dumping em like in July when the Ten year yield hit around 3.78 ish

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MACD is a piece of $hit indicator; I went through thousands about 6 years ago with that one in the spooz, learn Market Profile or go home. When you learn what paper sees and uses- a true auction market process like being in the pit years ago you will make $.

spanish idiot get off this thread, let me count the ways you are wrong: ES which you can trade and not the big one in the pit (which moves at 10 cents increments) move in 25 cent increments so you can not make .7, second of all you make $12.50 a tick ($50 a handle= 4 ticks) on a 1 lot and not...