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THAT is true. This is YOUR health we're talking about here. This is OUR government. They work for us. How can we allow them to pass a 1,000 page bill that nobody has had time to read? ESPECIALLY when this thing is so awesome that congress exempted its own members from the program...

I don't mean we have to get rid of certification for doctors. I mean that the AMA should not be the monopoly on that certification. The AMA doesn't actually control doctors and licensing by the AMA doesn't mean that the doctor is competent either. I've been to witch doctors more competent...

Ha! Me too!

Bigdave, Did the "by your own admission" not tip you off? You're clearly coming to the party late. Do read the archive before you jump in because if you did, then you would know that I was very seriously ill in a socialized medicine system, half my family consists of doctors and surgeons...

You have either not lived in America or you haven't lived in Italy. Or it's possible that what you consider a quality life is not one I would consider quality. For example, I don't consider the mafia running everything and so many strikes that a website exists just to warn people on a daily...

Well, I'll tell you....either the french have a particularly delicate constitution or it's because ambulances stopped picking up victims of heat stroke and hospitals stopped answering the phones when they become overwhelmed. Point is, we have worse heat waves and never had such a death wave as...

No, I'm a woman, Thunderpoo. I'm meant to have boyfriends and guys like you always over-estimate themselves. But, I apologize. I shouldn't have stooped all the way down to your level and made that totally irrelevant comment after pointing out that you never add anything useful to the...

Well, now that's the reason that only one of the doctors I go to takes insurance. The really good ones seem to be opting out.

Want to cut doctors's pay? Easiest way to do that is to get rid of the AMA.

Um...it is overused because it's FREE to them and they have ALL day to sit in the doctors office. I generally like free stuff too. Medicare is, however, bankrupting the children and grandchildren of these good old folks. I completely agree with you about wanting every expensive and...

Oh, sorry about that. Too much typing, not enough processing. Totally get your point. But you understand how I'm surprised by none of this, yeah?

Yeah, but you don't die by the thousands during a heat wave. Actually, they hate the Germans more. In Europe, the mutual hatred is pretty amusing. Live expectancy is such a canard. Normally, I just state the obvious: life expectancy is greater because the French aren't fat pigs (12%...

Kazz, You, by your own admission, have never been seriously ill. You have no clue what kind of healthcare you have. Also, giving up beer, smokes, fast food and a 52 inch plasma seems a small price to pay for life saving treatment. Dontcha think? I mean if your life wouldn't be worth...

I suspect you regard your penis and sexual prowess as adequate and I suspect your boyfriends do not. You're out of your league, pumpkin. You offer nothing of any value and that must be terribly upsetting to you. Run along.

interesting. I didn't do anything special. We should talk off the message board about this.

I used to live in Western Europe. There's no debate - they're all very ethnocentric and America bashing over there. The Italians are living in their own filth and the French die by the thousands in a heat wave because they don't have A/C, but it's America that sucks. If this health care...

They're going to pay employees whatever it takes to keep them from bolting. No more no less. If you're outraged, take it up with the government. As far as I'm concerned, these firms shouldn't even be around. But for those who supported the bailouts, what's with the surprise when the...

Only one small problem with that. The state and the SEC may view you as an "Investment Adviser" and require you to register as one with the SEC and the state. You want to check into that before you set up a private arrangement. Enough government intrusion into your private arrangements for...

The scariest two words in the entire bill was unavoidable - "Government run". That's all people needed to hear. Just to be clear, I think the system we have is completely screwed up - because government has long been favouring the insurance industry over consumers. So, I don't disagree with...

Let me get this straight.... You want the very same government that screwed up everything else to be trusted to provide your child with something as important as health care? Are you sure you don't want to rethink that?