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    Interesting thoughts about God and society

    Where in the Old Testament was there an action by God that could be considered destructive where there wasn't some type of transgression perpetrated by the victims of that action?
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    Interesting thoughts about God and society

    I thought that the terrorists said they struck us on 9/11 because of our decadence. I guess I'm a little confused about what decadence is. Is not killing 3000 innocent (non-combatant)people decadent?
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    As to the debate between the theist and the atheists. Neither side will know for sure before they die. The atheists will never be able to claim victory(until they die and know for sure if they were right). If the atheist is right then since everything about him ended with his death he...
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    You on the other hand, are attacking ME and my motives in an attempt to discredit my position, INSTEAD of directly attacking my position. That *IS* poisoning the well, and therefore fallacious. axeman _____________________________________ You may call it poisoning the well but I call...
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    Are your ignoring the word CERTAIN on purpose, or what? How can you say this is a broad stroke? I also never claimed that we should condemn all catholics because some priests butt fucked some little kids But we can condemn the church for the cover up. axeman...
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    Is not the whole stained-glass window post a poisoning of the well and unsolicited I might add.
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    In fact, it's such a well known fallacy, it has it's own name. "Poisoning the well". axeman ____________________________________ Pride, at least accordign to the definitions I gave from webster, is the poisoner of the well.
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    "It points out the hypocrisy of certain religions." axeman _______________________________________ A broad brushstroke wouldn't you say? In nearly every religion there are people who can be right with God, you can't condemn everyone in a religion unless you condemn every religion.
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    This shows that this pride hang up you have is completely irrelevant to this discussion. It doesn't matter if I do, or don't have pride. Why are you quoting this at all? axeman _________________________________ You would like to make it irrelevant but it is not, your motivation and...
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    The stained glass window post was a joke I found on a website. It did not create the joke (well deserving that it may be ) It points out the hypocrisy of certain religions. Should we NOT make fun of (ridicule) people like this? They deserve it. axeman _________________________________...
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    Once again from a very biased religious doctor who has consistently produced FLAWED experiments, which have NOT been successfully replicated by unbiased third parties. I could freely admit that I am in a flood of personal pride, and it does not detract from the weight of my position a...
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    Pascal's Wager Revisited

    Gee rlb even I like you better than that.
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    Obviously, I see no wrong in a person who is self-reliant and uses REASON to determine right and wrong, and who QUESTIONS all things as inquisitive, rational people do. You may apply the negative label of pride to it, but realize that some see it as a virtue, and use positive definitions...
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    Thats my point. Your label of prideful is only your opinion, and only makes sense from YOUR point of you. axemsn _______________________________ Point of you or point of view? __________________________________ This is at the very center of being anti-God which is what I thought atheism...
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    And WHO should judge then, if not myself? This is absolutely ridiculous. Am I supposed to find someone ELSE to challenge shaky beliefs and have someone ELSE judge the results? Just what are you trying to say? I should turn off my brain, and simply hope the answer appears in my...
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    Definition: Pride: A sense of one's own proper dignity or value; self-respect. axeman ________________________________________ You should post a more complete list of definitions that is why I asked you in one of my "dodges" for your definition. Pride: 1. The quality or state of being...
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    Axeman - Again, it makes no difference whatsoever who (God or zeus) or anyone else you ask to prove themselves to you to constitute who is operating from a prideful position. The fact that you demand they do the proving and you do the judging consitiutes the basis for the pride.
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    Pascal's Wager Revisited

    Pascal's Wager boils it down very simply. If you do good deeds while living here on earth that is great but your reward will probably be received here on earth. The choices to believe or not to believe in God are the only ones relevant to the wager. If you do good deeds and don't believe in God...
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    "Would you consider it intellectual pride to ask ZEUS to prove himself to you?" You have dodged THREE times now Doubter. axeman ________________________________________ The pride is not based on whom you ask but on the motives of the asker. In the case of axeman the answer is yes.
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    judge not moving 10 commandments statue from u.s.a. gov. property

    Russian Orthodox church originated at the end of the 10th century, when missionaries from Byzantium converted the ruler of Kievan Rus to Christianity. For the past 1,000 years the Orthodox church has been the dominant faith of the Russian people. There are other Christian denominations as well...
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