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Andre how many times am I going to have to do this? You are either a relentless spammer or totally incompetent at running a web site. I've asked you more than once to take me off your master list so it is just gone. Jeff

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If you read what Paul said it completely contradicts what you say. I don't care what your personal belief is I just didn't want to let go of the false information.Your argument "because he was a Gnostic at some point in his life therefore..." just doesn't hold up given what he wrote. Jeff

daniel_m where do you get the idea that Paul never even suggests that the Jesus story is meant to be real?

<i>daniel_m said: 1) Saul of Tarsus - in other words, Paul - never actually claims to have met jesus. history shows almost conclusively that Paul was part of a group called the Gnostics...that he in fact never even suggests that the Jesus story is meant to be real. </i> Where did THAT come...

Shoot, I thought I was done. :) I didn't want to evade your question. Yes I would like to know if I was wrong because eternity is an awfully long time, this assuming my belief that we will be somewhere for eternity and not just die and "go away". OK, here's more crazy Jesus freak talk - when...

That's what I was referring to as to what I thought you might want to prove since you seem so sure of it. It was your assertion. But we're obviously going in circles so I will bow out. My debating skills are pretty bad but matters of faith are obviously very difficult to debate. However...

I'm not taking no test. :D I had enough of those in school. Nothing we can say will change your mind because your beliefs are set in stone and you feel that your own reasoning stands above all else. You have deemed yourself the "religious test judger". Some of us believe there is a creator whose...

I'm not asking you to debunk my claims. I'm asking you to prove YOUR asertions (I said ascertation earlier, not a real word:(), namely that there is no God. You seem to enjoy making fun of Christians for believing something there is no "proof" for and yet you seem to be doing the very same...

OK, there is plenty of historical documentation (outside of the Bible) as to the miracles Jesus performed, his grave stone being rolled away etc etc. I realize you will find "contradictions" (axeman's term) and not accept it as "proof" but hey, at least I tried. So in this debate only us...

The theists have put up zero resistence. They have failed to respond to my questions, to the contradictions I pointed out. I'm so crushed. What will I do. What will I do.

You said Jesus was just a man and not the creator. Where's the proof?

there may have been a MAN named jesus christ. however, he was just a human being like we are. he is not some super being "god" type. so i'm not saying there isn't any evidence that a man name jesus christ once existed. what i'm saying is that is he not the creator of the universe. Again...

Its a fallacy... Where's the proof?

I would say you're the one who needs some critical thinking lessons. The above sounds totally ludicrous to me. I'm not trying to be impolite. It's just that it's obvious to me that somebody intelligent created all this. If you can't see it, there's probably something in the way.

I cant accept the fact that he is a superior being until you AT LEAST first prove his existence. Look around you at creation. If this doesn't give you your answer, which should be obvious, then you're not going to accept any other "proof".

you can always run for political office. Just don't mention you're a "day trader". :D

My mistake. Sorry. I came late to the thread.

I knew today would be a huge up day and an engulfing candle on the naz. hehe That didn't happen.