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  1. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    Assuming this was at all possible... you should fire the unvaccincated since they will be costing you the money...the vaxxed person would be putting you IN compliance :).
  2. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    This article has a better legal analysis as to why the mandate could pass constitutional muster: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/no-issue-of-constitutionality-legal-experts-give-bidens-certainly-constitutional-vaccine-mandates-the-go-ahead/ However it will all come down to how OSHA...
  3. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    That article headline made me interested in reading it.... then I did and it had no substance.... :( "My anticipation would be, with the initial challenges, we're not going to see a suspension of this rule," Brian Dean Abramson, a leading expert on vaccine law, told Insider's Erin Snodgrass...
  4. El OchoCinco

    DeSantis for the win

    Not as good as it is working in NY which has more people. NY Jan spike was close to same in FLORIDA but notice how the summer spike in NY was maybe 1/5 that of FL... SEPT in NY is close to 5000.... FL is still above 10,000.
  5. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    The system is based on not losing points to the other team... A Dem cannot support a GOP point because then it makes them look bad and a loser for agreeing with the other side (and vice versa). Pick any topic and Dems and GOP will pick opposing sides simply to be opposing because no way you...
  6. El OchoCinco

    Mississippi, Kentucky, Georgia, Ohio, Alabama passing 6 week abortion ban bills

    There is no constitutional right to marry someone of another race but the government is still not allowed to ban it... There is no constitutional right to getting a boob job but government cannot ban them (thank God!) Supreme Court found the government is restricted in its ability to ban...
  7. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said at a press conference on April 29 that the House couldn't require members to be vaccinated. Video clips of those remarks gained renewed attention online following Biden's announcement. "So—so here is the thing. We are—we cannot require someone to be...
  8. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    The problem is Biden cannot take the high road that GOP wants to kill children to defend the government taking over reaching action that might be unconstitutional or in violation of the APA... It is purely political to says that GOP wants to kill children. Imagine the GOP got up and said they...
  9. El OchoCinco

    DeSantis for the win

    trying to find more info on the ruling itself and all articles seem to just have commentary.. seems like a Jurisdiction overturn?
  10. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    If federal govt is fining you $14,000 for each un vaxxed employee it is naive to say the government is not forcing you to fire that employee. it is like saying you dont have to fire that employee but if you dont I am going to beat the shit out of you repeatedly.... so if you decide to fire...
  11. El OchoCinco

    Latest Vaccine News

    I wonder if they will ever make public what they are charging insurance or governments or the pharmacies/groceries giving out free shots all over the U.S. I know mine was free at CVS but obviously someone paid for it and Moderna and Pfizer must be making a fortune.
  12. El OchoCinco

    Trumper's won't get vaccinated. Want to stay locked down forever

    If you get the vaccine in 2021 it is seen as rejecting trump as your savior and pledging your undying loyalty to Biden in the minds of rural GOPtards I guess. The dems I have encountered who have not or will not get the vaccine usually cite some religious reason that sounds like bullshit as...
  13. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    Well I am enjoying the rational intelligent discussion so I dont care if we go all day :). A testing mandate is not what this is being pushed as....a vaccine madate or test weekly at your own cost. But again Walmart or UNited making the decision is within their power. The federal government...
  14. El OchoCinco

    4 in 5 vaccinated Americans blame unvaccinated for rising cases

    To be fair... what about the GOP that suddenly flipped and said they are not taking the vaccine after trump lost the election... Eveyrone was gung ho for the vaccine under trumps push and now mostly GOP people not taking it or speaking out against it.... And then the dems fell in love with it...
  15. El OchoCinco

    4 in 5 vaccinated Americans blame unvaccinated for rising cases

    yeah seriously.... you cannot find just one more person to call to get to 1000? That would drive me nuts if my pollsters came back and said "We got all the data from 999 people" I would be like..... dude.... you couldnt even just make up 1 to round that out?!?!?!
  16. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    Federal government said they would not pay for tests so each person will have to pay for their own tests. If I have a company and this is put out by Biden, I am not paying for hundreds of tests every week....companies will not be paying for testing if someone chooses not to get vaxxed.
  17. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    I am not sure this is an OSHA regulation, it is being couched as an emergency order. WHy? Because EO's bypass rulemaking procedures for immediate effect. Also the order says mandate vaccines or weekly testing..... not sure what good weekly testing will do if you offer that as an alternative...
  18. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    We will see but OSHA are government and industry wide safety regulations that are applied through OSHA's authorized rule making authority. They also come from industry wide standarized safety measures that were actually put out to the public for comment and expert input before coming to final...
  19. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    Vaccines are only effective when companies have 100 or more employees...that is how random the logic is...
  20. El OchoCinco

    Biden's Six Pillars - Addressing Covid in the U.S.

    I dont think you want to use the word coercion with respect to private employers and due process haha. What good is forcing testing once a week to be honest since you can still get and spread COVID in between your testing that far apart. Business can already require mandates as they are...
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