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    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    This is another reason I call you nine morons. You make assumptions and then act as if you know things for a fact. I was following San Diego's rules... moron... The life guards were even policing the policy the first 2 or 3 weekends.
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    Jimmy Kimmel - Leader of the Left - His downfall from Grace

    The funny thing is he got to where he was because he was willing to do that crap on T.V. He was always talentless. He is not naturally funny or witty any time I watch him. Not like Carson or Letterman (when he was young) or Leno. Not talented at all the way Fallon has amazing talents. (but...
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    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    absolute complete horeseshit.... I don't claim the global plan was lockdown forever... I make fun of GWB's position as lockdown forever as he argued for a phased opening but he and the team were moving the goal posts. 2. Multiple articles have said that Sweden's model is where many of the...
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    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    As we learn more and read the studies I have been correct even on some of my speculation. I have said a great many things that have turned out to be correct if you have read the papers coming out recently. Probably began spreading much earlier. Many more people infected than saying. Much lower...
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    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    We agree on that one. By now we should be able to test and trace clusters like clockwork. CDC, Federal Govt, Trump, State Governors and probably most local leaders... with the exception of a few... Govt has failed one of their main tasks. Republican leadership - Democrat leadership... they...
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    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    What does a 10x number do to the infection fatality rate? https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/25/coronavirus-cases-10-times-larger/ CDC chief says coronavirus cases may be 10 times higher than reported The number of people in the United States who have been infected with the...
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    The Path to Recovery: How to Re-Open America

    I was not screaming about Antifa, I recall writing I admired their guts or Chaz's guts. I know the democrats are using them to stop some of their voting block from leaking. Their movement will be gutted the way the establishment gutted the tea party. -- I don't talk politics at the gym... ever.
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    The Path to Recovery: How to Re-Open America

    Of course you do... Just like the way you chose countries which supported the approach I advocated while thinking you were correcting me.
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    The Path to Recovery: How to Re-Open America

    Straw man... that is b.s. The left and GWB kept telling us we can't reopen until we hit certain goal posts and they kept moving the goal posts throughout the shutdown. Even in San Diego the one County official who voted to keep the shutdown going keeps getting quoted in the media about the...
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    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    It would be a nice argument to claim hindsight...If I did have 3 months of foresight documented on this website. My approach at the time was discussed with doctors ... one of whom his friend is a well known infectious disease expert. I was just not making this shit up. Locating the PPE and...
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    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    Reply... actually many of the countries you mention or allude to as having success did not practice blanket shutdowns but targeted shutdowns, sealed borders and business deployed sensible measures like checking people's temperatures. I agree there is no question shutting down borders and...
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    The Path to Recovery: How to Re-Open America

    Shutdown for ever baby. Keep scaring the hell out of the country. great strategy you have been following GWB. We open. We see the virus did not go away and we begin to see the full extent of the damage. Wait til rent and mortgages must be paid. Wait to the trillions the FED created bring...
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    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    There are two ways to see this. A balance should be struck. But, you are dick for calling the other side selfish... your views are delusional and self centered. Why should those under 30 be locked down when we can accomplish the same thing with more finely tuned measures? Many older...
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    In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

    This article takes the view that Govt should have done more to protect the elderly. I am not making the arguments in the article but I am providing it so that we can see thousands of Sweden's deaths were in nursing homes. Like NY and CA and many other places they could have closed them down...
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    In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

    Remember a massive amount of Sweden's deaths took place in nursing homes before lockdowns started to happen. They did lock nursing home eventually but like what happened here in the US the damage was already done. That was independent of their non lockdown strategy...
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    In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

    Sweden's model is really everyone elses phase 2. And now we see that it was a good thing to begin phase 2 earlier. I remind you all that some scholars see what I have been saying for months... "The social and economic costs of these lockdowns are clear—and staggering: tens of millions of...
  17. J

    Right wing fake news helped spread the Pandemic

    1. That post was for another thread... that was a mistake. I deleted it. thanks. 2. You really shouldn't lie for the left.
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    Right wing fake news helped spread the Pandemic

    Why Sweden’s COVID-19 Strategy Is Quietly Becoming the World’s Strategy Around the world, nations are starting to emulate Sweden's COVID-19 strategy. Here's why. Sweden’s unique approach to the COVID-19 pandemic has been drawing a great deal of scrutiny for weeks, including both admiration and...
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    Right wing fake news helped spread the Pandemic

    Really... can you show us that directive with a link. Not to a lie by Cuomo. I know Cuomo was making that claim. But, then it got pretty soundly refuted by people who said the directive was clear... Covid patients could only go to places where they could be properly isolated and cared for...
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    DeSantis for the win

    How can you make statements as if you know something without balancing the risk vs reward. It is so its annoyingly dumb. You may wish to be treated as a mushroom, kept in the dark and fed a lot of shit. But... we need data showing that these shutdowns are going are actually do do more good...
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