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    givers and takers

    Wealth transfer in the United States, the country described as 'mean' by Michelle Obama, goes as follows in 2010: 110 Million non-farm, non-gov't workers 22 million gov't workers 57.96 million people on either SSI or SSID 60-100 million on medicaid depending on how the new law shakes out...
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    Canadian Economy - What's your outlook..?

    I didn't know that. On a per capita basis that would be a $3T bailout in the US, that's incredible.
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    Obama's Private Army now law. Hidden in health care bill

    so who gets to define what is needed? I didn't read much law enforcment in the above, it looks more like a medical corps than law enforcement. It would be used to give the looting and shooting losers of people in Katrina-like disasters free medical care of some sort. Most of the smarter...
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    even Obama knows the US is bankrupt

    I was here when Paulson-Bush started the bailout, there were VERY few supporters of it, so stop with the strawman please. If anything, it is you Obama supporters that want to simplify the opposition so you can knock it down. Obama supported the bailout and hired a wall street insider as his...
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    Game Over, Atheists

    I would ask why god would make such an immoral world. Evolution does not claim to result in people that fit your definition of moral. Your argument is an example of the regression fallacy and is therefore useless, hope you didn't spend too much time on it.
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    CBO: Debt To Rise To 90% of GDP

    Do people really understand what 90% GDP debt does to the federal budget? It means that in 10 years interest and mandatory spending will take up the entire federal budget. We'll have to keep borrowing or raise taxes massively if we want such things as an army. People were always dismissive...
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    Demos think you're jerks

    Yes well the Amish may be the ones laughing at us someday since they are well equipped for self sufficiency. I am resigned. This weekend I'm gonna think about 'what can I get out of this?' I hate being that way when the gov't is bankrupt but I'm stupid if I don't. So much for 'ask not...
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    Demos think you're jerks

    The government is favoring certain religions by exempting them from having to have the health care law rammed up their asses. Favoring one group over another on religious grounds is unconstitutional.
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    Demos think you're jerks

    If you have good fundamental philosophical objections, that's too bad, the left hates you anyway and likes forcing themselves into your life. If you think your sky daddy doesn't want you to have to have health insurance, you are all set. Well screw you loser socialists, I'm gonna make my...
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    Demos think you're jerks

    it will be tough moderating without a computer
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    Demos think you're jerks

    As a nonbeliever I'm quite pissed that you can get out of this health care system by being Amish. Believe and live by some ridiculous set of beliefs and suddenly the law doesn't apply to you. That is unconstitutional but alas I don't have the money and energy to fight it. Now it looks like...
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    Who enforces healthcare

    Social workers in conjunction with local police is another possibility, the FBI could since it is federal law and they probably handle medicare fraud, but most likely the IRS due to the fact it will appear on tax forms.
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    McCain:Stop this euphoria, I vow to kill healthcare bill.

    Not going to UAE, tied to family. thanks anyway Optical engineer, several patents and many pubs, both research and systems level application. One needs to be educated before one can be trained in my area. I have both, despite your unsupported claims to have knowledge of my professional...
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    McCain:Stop this euphoria, I vow to kill healthcare bill.

    undereducated? I have a PhD in engineering, what do you have? Getting my ass handed to me? by Optional, ..dumbass, or hermit? You gotta be kidding, whatever so called education you have you paid too much for if you think these guys have presented overwhelming arguments here. Obama believes...
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    The National Debt

    1) Once again for the slow people in front, I said total social welfare 2) SSI trust is at 2.5 T surplus, not 3.7 3) Every pension fund in existence has to compute future obligations, but dotdotdipshit thinks SSI is somehow exempt from that fact when assesing its viability. 4) Medical...
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    The National Debt

    I said total social welfare moron, since you can't do arithmetic you are not qualified to make conclusions. You are odds with every budget analysis out there. The SSI 'surplus' was due to disappear anyway, it is long term insolvent when considering it in a vacuum. But that's not the point...
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    The National Debt

    Ricter, you are a little more intelligent than dot dot dot loser, Read the history of Canada and Sweden, they about killed themselves with socialism, they had to cut back. We all know what happened to the eastern block, and keep your eye on sweden as it implodes under the weight of a large...
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    The National Debt

    I could easily dismiss this tool, but the reality is that he and his cohorts are getting their way. They are actually cheering this legislation, and they can't add.
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    The National Debt

    California didn't fight a war, California is in deep financial shit, guess why.
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    The National Debt

    Why do these braindead assertions even continue? Why in the face of simple refuting arithmetic do people even try to make false assertions that somehow social and corporate welfare is affordable and defense is the culprit, and that we can afford more of this? total war tally ~ $2.5T social...
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