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zionist terror
- Thread starter WAEL012000
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No, you are not religious, you are politically driven and label those who are fundamentally religious Jews who oppose and resist Zionism and the Zionist actions as "kooks."
Which just places you in another category of fundamentalism...non religious fundamentalism.
Which just places you in another category of fundamentalism...non religious fundamentalism.
Quote from dddooo:
That's quite ironic given that I am not religious at all. You must have confused me with your islamofascist buddies.
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You're such a hack. If you couldn't kill muslims, you'd be killing mormons.
You seem to have a problem figuring out who is killing who. We all know how peaceful the muslims are (did you read the start of this thread??????????????????????????)
Fundamentalism indeed.
Yes, you are right; the islamic fundamentalists don't want to kill anyone. It must be the liberal and moderate muslims who are causing all the jihad and suicide bombings. Osama is a peaceloving guru in the mold of Gandhi. I am sure ETers (other than TT2 or WAEL) will be rallying to your defense.
Wow, it is hard to overcome your convincing debate tactics. You are the master.
And where is your brain currently vacationing???????????????
You're such a hack. If you couldn't kill muslims, you'd be killing mormons.
You seem to have a problem figuring out who is killing who. We all know how peaceful the muslims are (did you read the start of this thread??????????????????????????)
Fundamentalism indeed.
Yes, you are right; the islamic fundamentalists don't want to kill anyone. It must be the liberal and moderate muslims who are causing all the jihad and suicide bombings. Osama is a peaceloving guru in the mold of Gandhi. I am sure ETers (other than TT2 or WAEL) will be rallying to your defense.
Wow, it is hard to overcome your convincing debate tactics. You are the master.
And where is your brain currently vacationing???????????????
LOL, look who's supporting religious fundamentalism now!!! This ugly disgusting creature (aka Z10) brings up the views of a tiny jewish fundamentalist sect to promote his political agenda and the hatred of Israel. Why am I not surprised?Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
you are politically driven and label those who are fundamentally religious Jews who oppose and resist Zionism and the Zionist actions as "kooks."
PS while you don't believe in Israel's right to exist this jewish sect actually does believe that Israel belongs to the jews, they believe the land should be given back to them by God, not by the UN. They are kooks and you're a pathetic unscrupulous loser.
Quote from dddooo:
A non-violent fight could quickly lead to the establishment of a palestinian state (23rd arab state) alongside Israel but this is not what it is all about. Their explicitly stated objective is NOT the existence of a palestinian state but the destruction of Israel. Non-violent methods are quite useless in this respect.
Yep.
The predominant psychological influences on either side do not permit the kind of insight and mental freedom required to ameliorate the situation.
There is not much thinking allowed outside the "box".
And this leads to the piling up of coffins.
Yet anyone interested in peace needs to go beyond even non-violent protest.
Protest while casting stones of blame will fall short of protest where there is no blame game.
The world is not what it appears to be.
It hides subliminal streams of thought.
There is constant communication between
what appear to be private minds with opposing agendas.
If ever the communication were exposed,
it would be seen that there is no one to blame.
It's challenging for reactionaries to understand the
nature of the laws of thought.
What happens on the ground is a charade.
All parties involved are doing this to themselves.
To answer the question "Why", the reactionaries must
move beyond the narrow confines of the conventional wisdom,
and/or religio thought processes.
To answer the question 'why' requires a violation of standard religious sentiment.
The solution to the problem requires 'blasphemous' considerations.
Until the mind is given freedom to consider 'blasphemous' thoughts without fear of recrimination,
the violence will continue it's cycles.
The solution for those who must see it on the news or hear about it,
is to be 'passerby'.
It does not help to take sides, and to join in the blame game.
It does help to see through the situation, let it go and move on.
Take our Father for example.
Since there is no one to blame,
our Father does not even see the situation.
He does not think about it, nor acknowledge it.
Guilt is a myth.
It is not possible for there ever to be a reason to condemn.
He does not condemn the blameless.
He simply does not condemn at all, ever.
Thus, all parties who ever believed in guilt,
are required to give it up, and forgive.
That is, if they ever want to return to their original Homeland.
Jesus
More ad hominem, your stock in trade...
I am not supporting the Torah Jews who oppose Zionism based upon their view of the Hebrew scriptures, I am pointing out how you call them kooks and dismiss them on the basis of an anti religious belief system...calling them kooks because of their religious beliefs about Zionism.
It is a fact that a very large percentage of the fundamentalist orthodox Jews worldwide oppose the movement of Zionism, not on a political basis but on a religious basis.
This information is generally absent from the view of Americans, as they think Zionism is a religious based movement, and most Christian Americans provide blind support of Zionism and Israel because they believe it is a "spiritual" cause and aligned in someway with their own Biblical thinking.
When I have posted their point of view in the past, you were quick to dismiss their view with the standard ad hominem attack, as you couldn't make an argument on the basis of Jewish religion to counter their position.
Further illustrating that your motive is purely political, not religious, nor holy in nature.
People in America should know what drives Zionism so that they can better understand the real nature of the conflict, and then they can better decide whether or not to support Israel...they should not be kept in the dark about the real foundation of Zionism, nor should they be ignorant to the conflict between Zionism and fundamental orthodox Judaism that is seen by the Torah Jews since the beginning of the Zionist movement...
I am not supporting the Torah Jews who oppose Zionism based upon their view of the Hebrew scriptures, I am pointing out how you call them kooks and dismiss them on the basis of an anti religious belief system...calling them kooks because of their religious beliefs about Zionism.
It is a fact that a very large percentage of the fundamentalist orthodox Jews worldwide oppose the movement of Zionism, not on a political basis but on a religious basis.
This information is generally absent from the view of Americans, as they think Zionism is a religious based movement, and most Christian Americans provide blind support of Zionism and Israel because they believe it is a "spiritual" cause and aligned in someway with their own Biblical thinking.
When I have posted their point of view in the past, you were quick to dismiss their view with the standard ad hominem attack, as you couldn't make an argument on the basis of Jewish religion to counter their position.
Further illustrating that your motive is purely political, not religious, nor holy in nature.
People in America should know what drives Zionism so that they can better understand the real nature of the conflict, and then they can better decide whether or not to support Israel...they should not be kept in the dark about the real foundation of Zionism, nor should they be ignorant to the conflict between Zionism and fundamental orthodox Judaism that is seen by the Torah Jews since the beginning of the Zionist movement...
Quote from dddooo:
LOL, look who's supporting religious fundamentalism now!!! This ugly disgusting creature (aka Z10) brings up the views of a tiny jewish fundamentalist sect to promote his political agenda and the hatred of Israel. Why am I not surprised?
PS while you don't believe in Israel's right to exist this jewish sect actually does believe that Israel belongs to the jews, they believe the land should be given back to them by God, not by the UN. They are kooks and you're a pathetic unscrupulous loser.