Zimmerman's Bloody Head

Quote from pspr:

I'm a stickler for safety and knowing the condition of a weapon. I've had friends shoot holes in their bedroom walls, shoot themselves in the foot, accidentally shoot friends and known about plenty of people killed with unloaded weapons. So, I'm in the habit of checking a weapon I have in my possession two or three times to make sure I know what state it is in and knowing that anyone around me is safe from accidental discharge.

I don't have a concealed carry permit but putting myself in Zimmerman's shoes, I normally wouldn't carry with a round in the chamber. (a revolver or automatic dropped on even an uncocked hammer can cause a discharge and the safety could be accidentally switched to off) But, if I were going into an area or situation where I thought there was even a remote possibility I may need to defend myself, I would chamber a round then double or triple check that the safety was on (but never cock the hammer unless I was ready to shoot). Once out of that situation though, I wouldn't be comfortable until I had a chance to remove the chambered round. That may be just me though.

I'm not an expert in this area, but I thought modern pistols and revolvers were safe to carry with a chambered round. Older single action pistols, the old cowboy guns, could discharge if dropped with a round in the chamber. My understanding is that modern guns have redundant safety features to prevent that.

Some modern pistols, eg Glocks, don't even have a safety, per se. They have a trigger interlock mechanism, where you have to press a secondary trigger before the main trigger engages. Typically police carry them with a round chambered. Military practice is to carry them with an empty chamber, at least according to Larry Vickers.

There are three distinct styles of firing mechanisms for pistols. One, the 1911 single action style, where you have to cock the hammer , either manually or by cycling the slide. They are typically carried "cocked and blocked", ie with a round chambered and the hammer cocked and safety on. Or they can be carried with an empty chamber, but since a single stack 1911 only holds 7 or 8 rounds, doing so costs you a round.

Two, are true double action pistols, which have a hammer which you can cycle by pulling the trigger, like a revolver. A Sig is a typical example. They usually have a safety and decocking lever. Typically, I believe you would carry these with a roudn in the chmaber.

Three, there are striker fired pistols, like Glocks, Taurus, etc. They don't have a hammer and are fired by an internal striker. It is a design that has certain advantages, such as avoiding the long trigger pull of the first shot of a double action design. They are designed to be carried with a chambered round.

I read that Zimmerman's kel-Tec didn't cylce after his first shot. That raised questions to me. Possible reasons for not cycling are a jam, or the slide being obstructed or held, suggesting a struggle for the weapon.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I'm not an expert in this area, but I thought modern pistols and revolvers were safe to carry with a chambered round. Older single action pistols, the old cowboy guns, could discharge if dropped with a round in the chamber. My understanding is that modern guns have redundant safety features to prevent that.

Some modern pistols, eg Glocks, don't even have a safety, per se. They have a trigger interlock mechanism, where you have to press a secondary trigger before the main trigger engages. Typically police carry them with a round chambered. Military practice is to carry them with an empty chamber, at least according to Larry Vickers.

There are three distinct styles of firing mechanisms for pistols. One, the 1911 single action style, where you have to cock the hammer , either manually or by cycling the slide. They are typically carried "cocked and blocked", ie with a round chambered and the hammer cocked and safety on. Or they can be carried with an empty chamber, but since a single stack 1911 only holds 7 or 8 rounds, doing so costs you a round.

Two, are true double action pistols, which have a hammer which you can cycle by pulling the trigger, like a revolver. A Sig is a typical example. They usually have a safety and decocking lever. Typically, I believe you would carry these with a roudn in the chmaber.

Three, there are striker fired pistols, like Glocks, Taurus, etc. They don't have a hammer and are fired by an internal striker. It is a design that has certain advantages, such as avoiding the long trigger pull of the first shot of a double action design. They are designed to be carried with a chambered round.

I read that Zimmerman's kel-Tec didn't cylce after his first shot. That raised questions to me. Possible reasons for not cycling are a jam, or the slide being obstructed or held, suggesting a struggle for the weapon.
Thanks for the detailed info AAA.
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

They usually have a safety and decocking lever.

Even better, the Baretta Tomcat .32 has a pop up barrel allowing a round to be chambered with no slide action.
 
Quote from pspr:

I think Martin's career choice was "drug dealer". He was just biding his time until he was out of high school to please his parents before going big time.

There is a link somewhere showing some of his clients posting on facebook or someplace saying they needed (insert various terms for drugs).
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Please show the link you talk about. You lie and distort.
Trayvon talk about "plant" on the internet with his friend. Yes, he talking about marijuana. No, he is not talkiing to "clients" like the big drug dealer. Do YOU know how so many people in the high school try marijuana? Do YOU think they will become the criminal and the murderer because of marijuana?
 
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

I'm not an expert in this area, but I thought modern pistols and revolvers were safe to carry with a chambered round. Older single action pistols, the old cowboy guns, could discharge if dropped with a round in the chamber. My understanding is that modern guns have redundant safety features to prevent that.

Some modern pistols, eg Glocks, don't even have a safety, per se. They have a trigger interlock mechanism, where you have to press a secondary trigger before the main trigger engages. Typically police carry them with a round chambered. Military practice is to carry them with an empty chamber, at least according to Larry Vickers.

There are three distinct styles of firing mechanisms for pistols. One, the 1911 single action style, where you have to cock the hammer , either manually or by cycling the slide. They are typically carried "cocked and blocked", ie with a round chambered and the hammer cocked and safety on. Or they can be carried with an empty chamber, but since a single stack 1911 only holds 7 or 8 rounds, doing so costs you a round.

Two, are true double action pistols, which have a hammer which you can cycle by pulling the trigger, like a revolver. A Sig is a typical example. They usually have a safety and decocking lever. Typically, I believe you would carry these with a roudn in the chmaber.

Three, there are striker fired pistols, like Glocks, Taurus, etc. They don't have a hammer and are fired by an internal striker. It is a design that has certain advantages, such as avoiding the long trigger pull of the first shot of a double action design. They are designed to be carried with a chambered round.

I read that Zimmerman's kel-Tec didn't cylce after his first shot. That raised questions to me. Possible reasons for not cycling are a jam, or the slide being obstructed or held, suggesting a struggle for the weapon.

+1

The Kel-Tec Zimmerman was carrying also does not have an external safety.
 
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Quote from trendlover:

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Please show the link you talk about. You lie and distort.
Trayvon talk about "plant" on the internet with his friend. Yes, he talking about marijuana. No, he is not talkiing to "clients" like the big drug dealer. Do YOU know how so many people in the high school try marijuana? Do YOU think they will become the criminal and the murderer because of marijuana?

Leave em be, trend. They need this worldview. Think about it. Go back and look at when some of these folks joined.

They came here to learn to trade, and then became ghosts. Now, they are pissed. As an individual who has seen the entire timeline of a human, these 50 somethings have realized that it is str8 downhill from where they are, and they are shitty about it.

Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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