Zimbabwe went broke seizing land, Venezuela is about to go broke seizing platforms?
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You are typical of liberals everywhere. If anyone disagrees with you, you immediately go for the race card. Your kind of cowardly name-calling doesn't impress me or anyone else, so fuck you and welcome to ignore.
I deal in facts, not feel good fiction. Anyone with a brain can see what has happened and what is happening in Africa, your chamber of commerce fantasies notwithstanding.
The slogan, "Arbeit macht frei," was placed at the entrances to a number of Nazi concentration camps, not as a mockery, not even literally â as a false promise that those who worked to exhaustion would eventually be released â but rather "as a kind of mystical declaration that self-sacrifice in the form of endless labour does in itself bring a kind of spiritual freedom."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeit_macht_frei
that is what theories like religion impose on people; self-sacrifice all your fucking life, and die suffering, endless labour
for that reason i love religion, and i never want religion to demolish, if it weren't for these loads of shit how else would you get stupid people to constantly think within a desired framework
one reason they don't dump the homeless into some nevada desert; when people see them it creates fear within them, that if they don't work they will end up something like that
it's a fear creating factor within cities
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I don't know if you can categorize poor people as homeless, but from my experience since most are stupid, they can be categorized as the lesser humans
He had a vision.
Poor people need a vision and the wilingness to work hard to achieve it.
Handing money to the poor by itself, unfortunately, is not enough. It actually perpetuates their condition if that is all that is given to them.
As I read in a book a while back, poverty will not be erradicated by bringing poverty into the minds of the rich but by bringing riches into the minds of the poor....
Quote from Shagi:
The land the Zimbabwean white farmers owned was in the first place forcibly seized by white British settler armies from the poor blacks ancestors in the early 19th century. It was not paid for. The white framers paid the price for this, its not really their land it belongs to the blacks.
It was stolen loot on borrowed time. The same thing or even worse will soon happen to South Africa. The greedy whites there dont want to share the wealth and land they stole from the blacks.They will soon pay a price like the greedy whites in Zimbabwe. Thats why crime there is high, there is deep resentment of the wealth the whites have and are still not wanting to share it. They will lose everything because of their greediness.
In trading terms the greedy whites in Zimbabwe shorted the and lost out on delivery time because they were unwilling to buy(pay) the land back.
The whites in South Africa are still short enjoying their ill gotten gains soon they will be a demand to deliver in a not so kind manner.
So go long the metals group and enjoy the ride. eeh dont short them.
So according to you all whites in (South) Africa are greedy and they deserve to have everything they have redistributed? Two wrongs do make a right then?
Unlike most (all?) the posters on this thread I actually live in South Africa, and while things are not perfect and the gap between rich and poor is huge there isn't going to be any social revolutions. Why? There is too much money vested in keeping the status quo. The government, especially Jacob Zuma has the support of the poor while being on the side of those who have money. Redistribution (read socialism) will not make the poor richer over time - it will just make everybody equally poor.
Poor countries are poor because their economics systems propagate their current situations. And while rich countries are partly to blame (last time I checked WTO rules said subsidies were "illegal") the poor can't keep bemoaning the injustices of the past.
It's time for the poor countries to stop looking for handouts and make something happen, and thankfully the South African government realises this.
If I had to chose between racism ("we are the best") or Political Correctness, I would be in a quandary.
I rather think the gems of the New Testament should be applied to inter-personal relationships.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you may have a basis in tribalism, but then most of us act like teenagers anyway. That's why more mature societies have been more successful. And yes, they even fight wars and wage imperialism more successfully. They carefully weigh what's in it for themselves, and act advisedly.
Why is it the middle class is taxed for greed, but when you can hire lawyers and accountants, the tax becomes proportionately less?
That is true not only for people but also for countries.
I think that the reason for this is that money represents no real wealth, the only real wealth is the one you carry inside your head, if you want to help people get out of poverty, don't give them money [that will only hurt them] give them education, skills and an oportunity to earn their own bread in a level enough playing field.
This applies to all most of people as well as most countries. [after all, isn't a country nothing more than a large group of people?]