Zen, Yoga, Meditation and Trading

Quote from kiwi_trader:

You insist on misunderstanding Joab. The guru thing only comes up with people who need to have a god or christ or somesuch and inject it into reality.

Reality is that god/christ/religion/lamas are not needed in this discussion.

Meditation, Yoga and that specific set of practices that are Zen don't need them to have a potential impact on trading.

Please take Christ and put him and his effects on trading in another thread if you want ... but don't become a pest by injecting him here.
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It's actually the people that would follow this thread and these guru teachers that are missing the boat, it's that exact slant on their so called enlightenment that is causing you and them to be distracted from these guru's hidden agenda's.

(I know this because I have seen them all and have even studied with some of them in my younger more foolish days).

I remain on track with trading in my purposeful comments.

PRAY and specifically prayer to Jesus Christ and/or the ONE true GOD of Moses, Abraham and Issac is the only way to peace and true success in LIFE and trading as a side benefit.


I'm not missing anything, trust me.

Happy trading to you all. :)
 
Quote from TheDarkness:

Push ups always did it for me. That and a heavy bag. I am too active minded to meditate...or maybe that is the obstacle we must overcome?

I have a hard time clearing my mind. Hard to sleep at night as well because of being active minded, so meditating in the morning or during the day seems like it would be extremely difficult....

Anyone else have a similar "problem"?
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I hate meditating basically... if i sit in the lotus posture my knees stiffen up really bad too... to reduce tension just tense and relax every muscle in the body, start with your toes and work up, you'll be asleep in no time... there is a feedback from the tense muscles that causes thoughts and the thoughts cause tense muscles... or you could meditate for a few decades and learn to quiet the thoughts :D
 
Quote from tradeslikagod:

You are deluded and ignorant Joab.. Christianity is a literal interpretation of a collection of mystical writings (the bible) written in the language of the mystic, ie: symbolism and allegory.. to take it literally is to fail to advance out of spiritual kindergarten and be prey to conmen, guilt and fear.. wake up
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Story of Jesus is older than "literal" Jesus. If I remember well in Egypt it was Osiris. Religion can't get any dumber than to believe in Jesus the historical person.
 
Quote from tradeslikagod:

You are deluded and ignorant Joab.. Christianity is a literal interpretation of a collection of mystical writings (the bible) written in the language of the mystic, ie: symbolism and allegory.. to take it literally is to fail to advance out of spiritual kindergarten and be prey to conmen, guilt and fear.. wake up
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LOL

Jesus Christ is not a text or an exercise .... he is a continuous EXPERIENCE.

I have bad news for you my friend, your the one being conned.

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Quote from Joab:

Uhmmmm excuse me but it's you that is being hypersensitive.

You have still not addressed my argument that your being fooled by Randomness by basing probabilities on "past" events !!!

Trading is NOT like Blackjack (that has a fixed set of parameters) and therefor, there is NO SUCH THING as trading probabilities.
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But all human behaviour is based entirely on past events. Everything we know and have learned is based on how the world used to be. Science, technology, experience - all based on the past. All have so far worked very well for predicting the future.

Even with the flip of a coin, the probability is based entirely on past events. How do we know that in future, coins will not all land heads and we never see a tail again? We don't - we simply assume that it will continue like the past, and flip 50/50 over the long run. The same phenomenon applies in trading. If a certain market behaviour has in the past usually led to a certain outcome, then the odds bet is for that to happen the next time. There is no other way to trade. Every trader is making bets based on either opinions/hypotheses which are not tested against the past (i.e. random guessing), or ones that are. Thus all traders who have a system (including discretionary traders) are making the bet that the future will in some respect be meaningfully like the past.
 
Quote from trader28:

And how little you know of anything, what quantum mechanics has done is prove that there is no such thing as an objective "test" because the observer always affects the outcome, therefore by definition your sad little science is just as subjective as "mystical claptrap" :)
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If there is no such thing as an objective test, then how can quantum mechanics have proved anything.
 
Quote from Cutten:


Even with the flip of a coin, the probability is based entirely on past events. How do we know that in future, coins will not all land heads and we never see a tail again? We don't
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of course we do, even if we had never flipped a coin in our life....and never seeing tail again is very possible...and no the probability is not based on past events ( on the coin toss)....and i know what u are trying to convey though....peace
 
sounds like meta-science discussion. what can we know and why.
IMO the reasoning mind cannot move beyond projecting the past
on to the future. a knowledge different from that requires a method
different from that ...
 
Quote from Joab:

jaronimo

You didn't offend me :)

A. Your completely wrong about GOD in the Old Testament, he CONSTANTLY forgives and is very compassionate.

B. Jesus Christ is a GIFT because he loved us and did not want us to have to deal with his wrath because were knuckle heads and we never learn.

C. The story of JOB is the ONLY story in the Bible that EVERY major world religion agree's upon so you might want to re read it for yourself.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+1-3




I have studied all kinds of new age and ancient philosophies and they all lead to nowhere.

GOD is the only answer if you want true peace and happiness.

In my humble opinion.
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So this 'God', takes his own son out of heaven which is supposed to be quite a cushty place, and puts him on this rat infested planet as a 'gift'?

He lets his son get tortured by the Romans, who eventually nail his son to a f*cking cross?

This 'God' needs reporting for cruelty. Lock the sicko up.

What a father!
 
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