Zen, Yoga, Meditation and Trading

trader28 · Oct 15, 2006

I predict you are going to say Gotcha mags

maggandre · Oct 15, 2006

Quote from trader28:

Now thats zen mags

Gotcha. Things are not always as they first appear.

trader28 · Oct 15, 2006

And sometimes the effect comes before the cause

Joab · Oct 15, 2006

Quote from trader28:

Oh for gods sake you again?... firstly I base my trading career on my own method I developed and the edge it gives me, secondly Mark Douglas is a great guy and isn't whining about the market after 25 years of losing to it like you... and if you really are as old as you say then I dont think you have another 7 years in you

And once and for all if you allow emotions into the equation as you said you do then you are nothing but an amatuer, meditation and trading are acts of discipline, if you cant control your emotions then you are a perennial loser... but I guess someone needs to be on the other side of my contracts

Where do you get off thinking your so high and mighty?

Where do you get off saying anything about me or my account size or P/L ?

You don't know me nor do you know anything about me or my trading skills !

So please grow up.

You've completely failed to support your arguments and theories.

If it wasn't a Sunday afternoon and I wasn't waiting for some friends, I wouldn't have even bothered to try and help you expand your mind a little.

As far as your challenge, I would love to be on the other side of your trades so please feel free to share genius.

trader28 · Oct 15, 2006

Quote from Joab:

Where do you get off thinking your so high and mighty?

Where do you get off saying anything about me or my account size or P/L ?

You don't know me nor do you know anything about me or my trading skills !

So please grow up.

You've completely failed to support your arguments and theories.

If it wasn't a Sunday afternoon and I wasn't waiting for some friends, I wouldn't have even bothered to try and help you expand your mind a little.

As far as your challenge, I would love to be on the other side of your trades so please feel free to share genius.

I know everything about you, I knew the minute you told me you couldn't control your emotions while trading, and then set about proving it in this thread

Joab · Oct 15, 2006

mag,

I didn't start this !

I was merely responding to personal attacks.

Don't worry I'm finished trying to feed the guppies.

Have a great day

trader28 · Oct 15, 2006

Quote from Joab:

mag,

I didn't start this !

I was merely responding to personal attacks.

Don't worry I'm finished trying to feed the guppies.

Have a great day

You called down the thunder so it is a little late to piss and moan about the rain, trading is also about taking responsibility for ourselves and our actions, but if you must play the victim then also admit it about your trading so we can feel extra sorry for you

lumberjack · Oct 15, 2006

Quote from Karma Yogi:

You often hear the phrase:

"Good trading is boring."

I think the fear of boredom is one of the most powerful fears. And that's why most people fail at most tasks they undertake whether its trading, permanent weight loss, etc.
Sucess is boring - because it requires that you act successfully, over and over again - no room for excitement or deviation.
Failure is very exciting. The constant deviations, the frustration, the emotions - its all very exciting. The the excitement is a very dangerous addiction.

very well put..i'm glad i read that

dingtrader · Oct 16, 2006

I meditate for 30 mins before trading every day. no mantra, no school really, just try to empty mind andwhenever a thought comes in (every millisecond basically) i try to clear it out. eventually i think it will help me focus better.

MidKnight · Oct 16, 2006

Quote from Karma Yogi:

You often hear the phrase:

"Good trading is boring."

I think the fear of boredom is one of the most powerful fears. And that's why most people fail at most tasks they undertake whether its trading, permanent weight loss, etc.
Sucess is boring - because it requires that you act successfully, over and over again - no room for excitement or deviation.
Failure is very exciting. The constant deviations, the frustration, the emotions - its all very exciting. The the excitement is a very dangerous addiction.

That is excellent. I have recently thought that too and came to a similar conclusion. I didn't even realize it until I started getting some consitently positive results.

Kind regards,
MK