Yukoner's 2015 Psychological Journal

This is progress with disassociating - good job

But..., let's be forthright (and with reasonable expectations)

With her being mother of your son - completely detaching is going to be nearly impossible - at least for the foreseeable future (think ubber achilles heel)


What I bolded needs to be a hard and fast rule (view it as a fail safe switch - especially when acknowledged achillies heels are involved)



Tomorrow - we do'er again

RN

Thanks @Redneck those are good points. Since she left me last June I have pretty much had our teenage boys 85% of the time, and tried to keep as much available time as possible for her to see them. The X lives on a small island with limited ferry service, so it is tougher for them to just stop by her place. It is a fine balance, do I let her just stop by to see the kids OR insist on certain times?... well, I went with just stop by as I think that is best for our boys.
I do feel like our history doesn't control me like it used to. I know I am way more stable and that just carries over into trading. It's a journey.

I like that fail safe switch idea. Checkmark.

YK
 
Y:

When I first started posting in this thread, I asked you if you had a well defined trading plan. I asked that question not in a whim but based on the results of your daily PnL you posted. You assured me that you did; and, given this is a journal on psychology, I did not challenge you.

A manual, systematic trader (which you aspire to become) needs a well-defined trading plan and a mind-set to execute that plan. They are not mutually exclusive; and, they are equally important: no one is more important than the other. In my opinion, you lacked both. You identified the need to better you mind-set, and from what I see you have been very successful in that journey. This journey is far from over; nevertheless, your strides in this area have been impressive. I still owe you the post detailing the last step in the process [a process to better one's mind-set] I laid out, which I will do in due course.

The more pressing issue now, I believe, is your trading plan. Actually, your understanding of price action that is reflected in your trading plan. As I have said elsewhere, for a technical trader, a trading plan should be anchored by her solid understanding of price action. Anything less makes the trading plan almost useless.

Ask yourself the following questions:
(a) Assuming you entered a trade, and have a predetermined profit target level. Can you tell, based on price action (not based on emotions, but based on your analysis of prior price action for similar pattern instances), if the probability of price reaching your profit target is lower/higher than the probability of price not reaching the target?;
(b) Is your planned entry occurring at the lowest possible risk? Note: I said 'planned' entry, not necessarily 'actual' entry;
(c) After entry, even if the price moves in your intended direction, can you tell if the movement has convection or not? (once again, based on your analysis of prior price action for similar pattern instances);
(d) If your profit target is based on changes to market conditions, can you, based on price action, immediately detect those changes? (based on your analysis of prior .....);
(e) Is your methodology for determining anwers to (a)-(d) objective? Definition of objective: Give your methodology to different people and everyone comes up with the same answer.​

None of the above questions imply determinism in markets, but provides clarity for application of probabilistic thinking (and methods of statistics should you choose to).

If you answered 'no' to any of these questions, you lack a thorough understanding of price action, and your trading plan can only be half baked. My guess is: you will answer 'no' to all of these questions. You have a set of mechanical entry tactics, but your understanding of price action is lacking. In my opinion, a trader with a solid understanding of price action would not make the statements I quoted above. I could be completely wrong, and you alone know the right answer.

In other words, lets not forget that the edge for a systematic trader is a statistical edge; and, that edge can only be developed based on one's understanding of price action.

Since this is a psychology journal, I will stop here.

All the best.

Regards,
Monoid.

PS: Just to be complete. According to me, a primary difference between a discretionary trader and a systematic trader is that a discretionary trader relys on intuition to trade but a systematic trader relys on a trading plan to trade.

@monoid glad to see this post! I am running out of time today to give you a fair answer, but I will get back to you. Huge help that advice you gave me about giving myself set times to think about the market, and the rest of the day try to rest my brain from trading.
 
Fridays are always tougher in Crude Oil for some reason for my style of trading, but I know if I just keep shoveling in trades, good chances I will find that 10/50.

Have a good weekend all. Starbuck time.
 

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UDay #5 - Slept well, and woke up feeling great. Ready for the day. Did my regular routine and was ready to go.

Prior to turning on the computer, I sit there and ask myself if there is anything bothering me. The thought crossed my head, "just what type of trading are you doing?" I know now, my brain was trying to tell me something. The second issue has been one of workload and time... this week has been insanely busy due to staff away...and kids. I think today, I just hit a point where I wasn't there mentally.

Things just didn't click. I was slow reacting. I then got into a point where I could feel like I was "fighting" things...or that this was hard... and I learned a good lesson, when I feel that way, STOP, take a break and then come back.

Then unfortunately I was into my trailing max drawdown, and I tried to trade my way out of that. Hit a tilt. Not proud of that. Taking a trading break over the weekend... Monday I will relook at what I am doing, but no trading. Lots of warning signs that I should have seen...

-808
 
Wheels came off today

Every thing we been workin on - blown to hell

Discipline wise - you're back to square 1..., we start over


Dammit to hell YK;

Why allow this to happen?

Why piss everything you've (and we've) worked on the last few weeks down the drain?

(both rhetorical)

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I defended not jumping your ass a couple of days ago

Obviously I was wrong

H123 I apologize You Sir

YK get yer head out of your ass - or you'll never become a trader

Having trading discipline is just like being pregnant - either you do / are..., or you don't / aren't

There is absolutely no middle ground...., no kinda sorta

RN
 
I primarily trade before I go to work (6:00 am oil pit opens and until about 9:00 am). I will occasionally take a trade from my work office, but my rules demand that I can be focused. (Business owner, so I have some flexibility there)

Only trade crude. Only trade combine, and from about the beginning of this year I haven't traded my own personal account.

Thanks for answering the questions. I was given some bad information because someone told me that you're not required to trade Crude Oil CL futures in the combine. Thus, there are other trading instruments you can trade in the combine.
 
UDay #5 - Slept well, and woke up feeling great. Ready for the day. Did my regular routine and was ready to go.

Prior to turning on the computer, I sit there and ask myself if there is anything bothering me. The thought crossed my head, "just what type of trading are you doing?" I know now, my brain was trying to tell me something. The second issue has been one of workload and time... this week has been insanely busy due to staff away...and kids. I think today, I just hit a point where I wasn't there mentally.

Things just didn't click. I was slow reacting. I then got into a point where I could feel like I was "fighting" things...or that this was hard... and I learned a good lesson, when I feel that way, STOP, take a break and then come back.

Then unfortunately I was into my trailing max drawdown, and I tried to trade my way out of that. Hit a tilt. Not proud of that. Taking a trading break over the weekend... Monday I will relook at what I am doing, but no trading. Lots of warning signs that I should have seen...

-808
It not like I have never been in your situation long ago, several times of reoccurring problems, our brain likes us to do what we have trained ourselves to do what it feels most comfortable and when starting out or coming back to trading, we got real good at losing, so brain feels comfortable doing exactly that. It is one thing to dig ourselves out of a hole and another doing so when violating major rules of limit.

I even have limits of quitting for the day, three losing trades in a row-I am done trading for the day, and that is cause I have thoroughly back tested my method so I know what the "mean" of losing can be and what happens after that if I persist. So best to turn it all off and leave the house.

I truly know your method is not geared for "normal" days and only works on higher volatility days as you have showed in past, you have not stats to prove or disapprove, until you can come up with stats and not what you "think" it is, there will be no viable changes.

We both know till you get a better handle on trading, your mental game will be having times of "losing it" like Friday.
 
YK

I assume we're trading tomorrow (I am)

What are we going to do differently so as not to repeat last week?

That question is not rhetorical

I would like to know..., because I don't know...., which means I don't know what to expect

That scares the hell out of me

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Consistency - good or bad - least it repeatable..., least I can lean on it

Then if it bad - I can modify for the good

When I don't have consistency - my ass is out in the wind..., I have nothing

Nothing upon which to rely..., gauge..., measure..., even modify if necessary

Mkt is uncertain..., I (my actions) are uncertain

Makes for a very stressful trading session..., makes for a very empty feeling in my gut..., makes me unsure..., scared..., tense..., nauseated..., intense trepidation

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So I ask again;

What are we going to do differently - so as not to repeat last week's completely inconsistent trading behavior?

Otherwise - we got nothin - for when tomorrow arrives

eta = How will I be able to function (trade) efficiently...., optimally..., or even effectively - I need to know!!!

RN
 
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YK

I assume we're trading tomorrow (I am)

What are we going to do differently so as not to repeat last week?

That question is not rhetorical

I would like to know..., because I don't know...., which means I don't know what to expect

That scares the hell out of me

===============================

Consistency - good or bad - least it repeatable..., least I can lean on it

Then if it bad - I can modify for the good

When I don't have consistency - my ass is out in the wind..., I have nothing

Nothing upon which to rely..., gauge..., measure..., even modify if necessary

Mkt is uncertain..., I (my actions) are uncertain

Makes for a very stressful trading session..., makes for a very empty feeling in my gut..., makes me unsure..., scared..., tense..., nauseated..., intense trepidation

==========================

So I ask again;

What are we going to do differently - so as not to repeat last week's completely inconsistent trading behavior?

Otherwise - we got nothin - for when tomorrow arrives

eta = How will I be able to function (trade) efficiently...., optimally..., or even effectively - I need to know!!!

RN

Well, for starters I am not trading today. I am only just catching up on my journal now, as I tried hard over the weekend to not think about trading.

Bad habits die hard. Friday, I went back to bad habits. I was weakened from an overloaded work week, and I recognized it, but because it was non-trading related issues (like being stiffed for $4500 on Monday) I wrongly assumed I would be able to stick to my rules, and especially newer rules. That finally caught up to me on Thursday and Friday.

I need to decide what lane I am in, and stay in that lane. Either I trade for those larger moves, or I stick with the smaller moves. That is my goal to work out, and until that time I don't trade.

YK
 
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