Yukoner's 2015 Psychological Journal

MO

You give up too easy - shit ain't over - yet

Redneck, I haven't quit yet. All I am saying is that Yukoner needs to be able to follow the plan that has been outline before I can even attempt to help him with the other stuff. The problem I have is I don't know how to help someone that does not have [what I consider] baseline discipline.

Once Yukoner demonstrates that baseline discipline and is interested in moving forward, I would be more than happy to assist.

Hope I make sense.

Frankly, I was disappointed with Yukoner (disappointed -> due to my desire for Yukoner to succeed!) when I read his update. I was aware of my disappointment when I wrote my previous post, and might have over compensated by being too terse (need to become aware of that too!)

Regards,
Monoid.
 
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Chicken..., or the egg

Does undiciplinedness - beget emotional based action(s)

Or

Does emotional based action(s) - beget undiciplinedness


Are both cut from the same bolt of cloth - possibly

I simply don’t know

Hmmmm ..... A lot to think about!
 
Some of my thoughts.
To succeed in any endeavor requires several steps, as when a child learns how to walk.
It would be outright silly to believe that trading would be any different!
However, the fact is that when you start trading you can lose a lot of money unless you are well prepared to learn quickly from your mistakes.
If you keep making the same mistakes then you are not going to learn anything of value, and will more than likely not last long enough to stand on your own two feet.
 
Chicken..., or the egg

Does undiciplinedness - beget emotional based action(s)

Or

Does emotional based action(s) - beget undiciplinedness


Are both cut from the same bolt of cloth - possibly

I simply don’t know

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What I do know…..

Yukoner,

At some point Ya gotta nut up and stop with the bullshit…, or quit

Your job has been lined out..., and it simply a matter of executing (which ain't happening)


Where to from here?

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MO

You give up too easy - shit ain't over - yet

RN

I ain't quitting... I am changing. Not sure how much time that is going to take, but I am committed. Is a rose any less a rose, if all you can see is thorns and a few green leaves?

If need be, I will go down to only one trade a day and execute it perfectly... then stop. But I will get there.
 
dude you really just have to stop with the analogies and phrases and get to work. lol I mean no disrespect but thorns and green leaves and the chicken and the egg and and and .....

rubbish. WORK. You want it - go get it!
 
Yukoner: I am sorry that I will not be able to help you at this point. The ability to follow a plan that allowed you to make all trading mistakes albeit in a structured way, is, in my opinion, a prerequisite for working on emotions related to trading. Without that baseline, I don't have a plan for you. Someone else might have a plan, but not me.

I sincerely wish you all the best in your pursuit.

Regards,
Monoid.

@monoid : I understand your position. However, I did commit to you this week, and I will continue with what you have recommended the rest of the week.

Some great points so far from this exercise:

1) Your recommendation to only have minimal focus on trading outside of trading hours, and to give my brain a rest from all of this. I found that one hard to do, but at the same time, I could feel a refreshing in the brief time that I did this.

2) Permission to screw up a trade after I put it on correctly. Interesting consideration, and in some weird way it felt like I didn't have to be perfect. Lowered my expectations.

PS. Don't give up yet... double down till Sunday. I at least have to know what to do with these recordings... as I still haven't listened to them.
 
PS. Don't give up yet... double down till Sunday.

I can wait a lot longer; I am going nowhere, and I have all the time in this world! But, you need to show us that you can, borrowing Redneck's phrase, "nut up!"

All the best.

Regards,
Monoid.
 
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