you're paying for this schoolbus drivers $800k house

No you didn't so I won't bother either, especially since you seem incapable of critical thinking.
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would you like to answer my previous posts. I answered you're question about lying on mortgages
 
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No you didn't so I won't bother either, especially since you seem incapable of critical thinking.



another well detailed analysis and thought out post

you win
 
Look jackass, I asked you the same questions over and over again and you evaded answering them because you had no answers and then you lied and said you did when you had not. No wonder you don't get the concept of personal responsibility. Good luck loser.
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another well detailed analysis and thought out post

you win
 
If you really believe this you need to be protected from yourself.
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The only reason these people are getting help is because the banks will drop if the don't. If the banks, with some of the most experienced and highly compensated employees in the world, would have kept their financial house in order, help for those unable to pay their mortgage would have NEVER came. It wouldn't even be considered.

But, since greedy executives were using huge publicly traded companies as ATMs, the rest of us have to jump in the quicksand and try to pull them out.
 
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Look jackass, I asked you the same questions over and over again and you evaded answering them and then lied and said you did when you didn't. No wonder you don't get the concept of personal responsibility. Good luck loser.

no need to lose your head

take a moment to relax, anxiety gets in the way of clear thinking

just so you don't have to go back and review i said the lair was worse if i didn't make it clear i'm sorry

and gun makers aren't liable



so could you please answer mine without the insults
is personal responsibility exclusive to home owners and not institutions

the co. that made the loan that knew it was bad, but they had no responsibility because they "transferred" risk. i'm i hearing you correctly

what about people who bought houses with no risk because they didn't have any net worth aren't they just as smart as the bank for having no risk and only reward

the argument that they didn't obligating there contract is a fine one. then they should default and go bk I've said this enough you should know were i stand

But to say one group was smart and transferred risk and the other was dumb because they no risk and only reward boggles me
 
First don't insult me and then whine when you get it back.

Second, you still haven't answered my question about contracts:

If two parties (a bank and a consumer) enter into a legally binding contract and the consumer defaults, who is more at fault?

Finally, please boil your questions down to one or two and rephrase them clearly. I have no idea what you mean by things like: "the argument that they didn't obligating there contract is a fine one."


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no need to lose your head

take a moment to relax, anxiety gets in the way of clear thinking

just so you don't have to go back and review i said the lair was worse if i didn't make it clear i'm sorry

and gun makers aren't liable



so could you please answer mine without the insults
is personal responsibility exclusive to home owners and not institutions

the co. that made the loan that knew it was bad, but they had no responsibility because they "transferred" risk. i'm i hearing you correctly

what about people who bought houses with no risk because they didn't have any net worth aren't they just as smart as the bank for having no risk and only reward

the argument that they didn't obligating there contract is a fine one. then they should default and go bk I've said this enough you should know were i stand

But to say one group was smart and transferred risk and the other was dumb because they no risk and only reward boggles me
 
the lady in the video isn't all that truthful when she said Obama must stop foreclosures. She's just doing it b/c her equity has gone negative. most people who foreclose do it by choice, and not because they are unable to pay the mortgage.
 
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First don't insult me and then whine when you get it back.

Second, you still haven't answered my question about contracts:

If two parties (a bank and a consumer) enter into a legally binding contract and the consumer defaults, who is more at fault?

Finally, please boil your questions down to one or two and rephrase them clearly. I have no idea what you mean by things like: "the argument that they didn't obligating there contract is a fine one."

lets keep it simple

question #1

who is worse the loan liar or verifier

my answer liar

question #2

should a gun maker be liable for killing with gun

my answer is no

question 3#

who's more at fault the lender or borrower

my ansewer

the borrower is responsible for his own loan and should go bk( he is at fault for making his own problems)

the bank and institutions are at fault for their own problems and since they can use seemingly endless leverage
and created easily 10 times the money in cds i would have to say the banks are more at fault for the whole mess.


Now my questions

since theirs at least 40 trillion worth of cds and only 7 trillion of mortgages (that's total sub prime represents only 10% of the 7T)

Are cds creating or protecting risk?


Why is the person that takes a mortgage knowing his chance of default are high but doesn't have any net worth so he doesn't care

Any worse then the originator who sells and also knows of high chance of default but has nothing to lose either?


who owns more fault

borrowers 1 trillion in bad loans or bankers that created 40 trillion of cds off of 1 trillion of bad mortgages?
 
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