So fucking what? People will die AFTER taking the vaccine, thousands will die like they did before taking vaccines. You inbred retard, do you think people will stop dying after taking the vaccine? The question is whether someone died from vaccine or not, without patterns, without medical analysis and without a cluster of data, how the fuck did you conclude he died from the vaccine. Moron.
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So fucking what? People will die AFTER taking the vaccine, thousands will die like they did before taking vaccines. You inbred retard, do you think people will stop dying after taking the vaccine? The question is whether someone died from vaccine or not, without patterns, without medical analysis and without a cluster of data, how the fuck did you conclude he died from the vaccine. Moron.
Let's fact check your nonsense that many people and children are dying from COVID vaccines. Maybe it is time you stopped sourcing nonsense from anti-vax conspiracy sites.
“943 innocent kids … are now injured or dead” because of the COVID-19 vaccine.
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-no-proof-covid-19-vaccine-has-injured-or-ki/
There’s no proof that COVID-19 vaccine has injured or killed more than 900 children
- The data in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System are not verified, and cannot be used on their own to show that vaccines caused negative health effects.
But an Instagram post suggests that parents ought to be worried about the safety of the vaccines in children.
The post includes a graphic that reads, "The latest CDC data show reports of adverse events from COVID vaccines surpass 220,000, including 943 among 12-17 year olds."
The user who posted the image wrote in the caption, "I can’t help but to focus on the fact that 943 innocent kids whose parents believed that they were doing the right thing to protect their children — thanks to the propaganda packaged as science — are now injured or dead."
The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
So far, there’s no hard proof of anyone in the U.S. — adults or children — having died as a result of getting a COVID-19 vaccine. Three people have died from a rare blood clotting issue that health officials have said could be linked to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, which hasn't been approved for children.
This graphic attributes adverse-event data to the CDC, apparently referring to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, a public data collection tool run by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration.
The agencies and other medical researchers use the system to monitor adverse events — or possible side effects — following a vaccine that may warrant further study. For example, the CDC is currently investigating 18 cases of heart inflammation in teens and young adults, out of 164 million people who have received at least one dose of the vaccine.
VAERS is designed so that any person can report an adverse event, and anyone can scour the reports.
But VAERS accepts reports without verifying whether a vaccine actually caused that incident. That makes VAERS a dangerous breeding ground for misinformation that spreads quickly on social media and elsewhere. For more than 30 years, VAERS data has been misused to justify broad conclusions that vaccines are harmful.
The agencies that run VAERS warn that its reports cannot be used on their own to show whether a vaccine caused certain adverse events. So the events cited in the Instagram post are not evidence that anyone died or was injured because of the vaccine.
We took a look at the numbers given in the claim, and checked them against what’s in VAERS.
As of the last weekly update on May 21, VAERS shows 227,612 total reported events for all age groups for the COVID-19 vaccines.
We then ran a narrower search for the 6-to-17 age group, which would include the 12- to 17-year-olds now eligible for vaccination. VAERS turned up 2,207 reported events, not 943.
But that number does not represent the number of people who died or were injured, as the Instagram post claims. It is just the number of reports entered into the database.
Under the symptoms listed in those event reports, for example, "No Adverse Event" occurs 400 times. Many of the reports detail people experiencing the known side effects of the vaccine: headache, soreness, fever and fatigue, which are temporary and treatable with recommended over-the-counter medication.
A search that included just serious adverse events — a category that includes death, life-threatening events, and events that involve hospitalization — turned up 46 reports of events for the 6-to-17 age group. Three reported events cited a death. Each of these reports requires investigation and doesn’t signify a confirmed event related to the vaccine.
So the numbers in the claim don’t align with what’s in VAERS. But more than that, VAERS reports don’t indicate whether any deaths or injuries are caused by the vaccines. Researchers would need more studies and data to determine that.
Our ruling
An Instagram post claims that 943 children and teens have been injured or killed because of the COVID-19 vaccine. The post cites data from the government’s VAERS tool to back up this claim.
For the 6-to-17 age group, a search of the VAERS tool turns up 46 reports of serious adverse events after a COVID-19 vaccination. But the agencies that maintain VAERS warn that the reports should not be used to draw conclusions about whether a vaccine causes a particular adverse event.
There is no hard proof so far of anyone in the U.S. having died as a result of getting a COVID-19 vaccine.
We rate this post False.
Let's fact check the nonsense you are pushing that many people have been killed by the COVID vaccine.
“Between late December of 2020 and last month, a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the COVID vaccine in the United States … The actual number is almost certainly higher.”
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-carlsons-misleading-claim-about-deaths-afte/
Tucker Carlson’s misleading claim about deaths after COVID-19 vaccine
- Tucker Carlson was citing data from the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System database, or VAERS. The VAERS system is open to anyone, and reports to it are not verified, making it a breeding ground for misinformation about vaccine safety.
- The entries in the VAERS database are not enough to determine whether a vaccine causes death or any other adverse event, experts said. People can die after getting vaccinated for any number of reasons unrelated to the vaccine.
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed the death reports submitted to VAERS through May 3 and concluded that there’s no “causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.”
The comments were the latest in a series of controversial remarks by Carlson raising doubts about the vaccines, which clinical trials and real-world studies have shown both safe and effective.
"Between late December of 2020 and last month, a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the COVID vaccine in the United States — 3,362," Carlson told millions of viewers during his primetime TV show May 5. "That’s an average of roughly 30 people every day."
"The actual number is almost certainly higher than that, perhaps vastly higher than that," he added. "It’s clear that what is happening now, for whatever reason, is not even close to normal."
Carlson said he was citing numbers from the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, an open-source database often misused by anti-vaccine activists to make false claims about vaccine safety. Experts rejected Carlson’s claim as misleading.
That’s because VAERS data is considered unreliable for drawing causal conclusions. And dying after a vaccine is not the same thing as dying because of the vaccine.
"It is exceptionally irresponsible for this man to claim that all these are causal associations. It’s wrong," said Dr. Paul Offit, the chair of vaccinology at the University of Pennsylvania’s Perelman School of Medicine. "He puts people’s lives at risk with bad information during a pandemic."
VAERS reports are unverified and don’t show causation
Unlike other official government sources, which flow through consistent reporting channels and get screened by statisticians and analysts before they are made available to the public, VAERS is an open-access system. The reports submitted are not verified before they become public.
"Anybody can report to it," Offit said. "If I get a vaccine, or I give my child a vaccine, and I believe that they have turned into the ‘Incredible Hulk,’ then I can write up a one-page report online and submit it, and that then is included. And that’s been done."
A disclaimer on the VAERS website says the "reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness," in part because they "may include incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental and unverified information." People accessing the database must click an option that says that they’ve read and understand the disclaimer.
Offit said VAERS works best as "a hypothesis-generating mechanism" that can tip scientists off to issues for further study, such as the rare cases of blood clots that prompted the agency to recommend a temporary pause on use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
In this case, the CDC has analyzed all the reports of death among COVID-19 vaccine recipients that were submitted to VAERS between Dec. 14, 2020, and May 3.
"A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines," the agency concluded.
To establish causation, scientists need to find proof that an adverse event is significantly more common among vaccinated people than unvaccinated people. VAERS doesn’t provide enough data to do that.
As of May 5, nearly 150 million Americans have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, and many of the early shots went to older and more vulnerable people.
"When you’re giving a COVID-19 vaccine to elderly adults, there are going to be people who die shortly after vaccination because they would have died anyway," Dr. William Moss, executive director of Johns Hopkins’s International Vaccine Access Center, previously told PolitiFact.
An estimated 8,000 Americans die every day of all causes, according to the CDC.
Offit cited the case of baseball legend Hank Aaron, who died of natural causes — likely a stroke — weeks after getting his shot. Social media posts falsely claimed the vaccine killed him.
"You can get the vaccine and still die from other reasons," Offit said.
After his segment baselessly linking the COVID-19 vaccines to "roughly 30" deaths per day, Carlson interviewed Martin Kulldorff, a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School.
Kulldorff told Carlson that VAERS is "not a very useful system," in part because it doesn’t take into account "what is expected by chance" in terms of adverse reactions.
Carlson has questioned the vaccines and U.S. vaccination efforts on several occasions. In April, we rated Pants on Fire his claim that, "Maybe it doesn’t work, and they’re simply not telling you that." Fox News defended that statement by pointing to other instances where Carlson claimed to support vaccines, such as when he said he is "pretty pro-vaccine."
Elsewhere in his May 5 segment, Carlson similarly said the "vaccines aren’t dangerous" based on "the official numbers."
But his claim about thousands of deaths is wrong. On Facebook, a video of the claim was viewed more than 155,000 times, according to CrowdTangle, a social media insights tool.
The video was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
Our ruling
Carlson said, "Between late December of 2020 and last month, a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the COVID vaccine in the United States … The actual number is almost certainly higher."
That’s highly misleading. The source of Carlson’s numbers is the VAERS database, which is often exploited by anti-vaccine activists to make false vaccine claims. The CDC analyzed the VAERS death reports and concluded that there’s no "causal link to COVID-19 vaccines."
People can die after getting vaccinated for any number of reasons unrelated to the vaccine.
We rate Carlson’s statement False.
Why? Will you admit you are a fucking moron if I do?
Yes, this paper was written to fool Conservatives.
Myocarditis is well defined already as a vaccine symptom - especially with young men.
I know that excites you.
Jesus...
Imagine the people who live next door to you are as retarded as GoatRaper...if that doesn’t keep you up at night, not sure what does.
His sister says the Doctor confirmed it was caused by the vaccine. Check the post.
But in your tiny mind no one has ever died from a vaccine ever, right?
How many people have been killed or injured by this vaccine? Why won’t You won’t answer the question?
BecAuse you won’t like the answer...
Check VAERS and EUDRA
LOL POLITIFACT.Let's fact check the nonsense you are pushing that many people have been killed by the COVID vaccine.
“Between late December of 2020 and last month, a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the COVID vaccine in the United States … The actual number is almost certainly higher.”
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-carlsons-misleading-claim-about-deaths-afte/
Tucker Carlson’s misleading claim about deaths after COVID-19 vaccine
Fox News host Tucker Carlson suggested that thousands of Americans have died since December because of the COVID-19 vaccines, citing an unverified federal database that has become a breeding ground for anti-vaccine misinformation.
- Tucker Carlson was citing data from the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System database, or VAERS. The VAERS system is open to anyone, and reports to it are not verified, making it a breeding ground for misinformation about vaccine safety.
- The entries in the VAERS database are not enough to determine whether a vaccine causes death or any other adverse event, experts said. People can die after getting vaccinated for any number of reasons unrelated to the vaccine.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed the death reports submitted to VAERS through May 3 and concluded that there’s no “causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.”
The comments were the latest in a series of controversial remarks by Carlson raising doubts about the vaccines, which clinical trials and real-world studies have shown both safe and effective.
"Between late December of 2020 and last month, a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the COVID vaccine in the United States — 3,362," Carlson told millions of viewers during his primetime TV show May 5. "That’s an average of roughly 30 people every day."
"The actual number is almost certainly higher than that, perhaps vastly higher than that," he added. "It’s clear that what is happening now, for whatever reason, is not even close to normal."
Carlson said he was citing numbers from the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, an open-source database often misused by anti-vaccine activists to make false claims about vaccine safety. Experts rejected Carlson’s claim as misleading.
That’s because VAERS data is considered unreliable for drawing causal conclusions. And dying after a vaccine is not the same thing as dying because of the vaccine.
"It is exceptionally irresponsible for this man to claim that all these are causal associations. It’s wrong," said Dr. Paul Offit, the chair of vaccinology at the University of Pennsylvania’s Perelman School of Medicine. "He puts people’s lives at risk with bad information during a pandemic."
VAERS reports are unverified and don’t show causation
Unlike other official government sources, which flow through consistent reporting channels and get screened by statisticians and analysts before they are made available to the public, VAERS is an open-access system. The reports submitted are not verified before they become public.
"Anybody can report to it," Offit said. "If I get a vaccine, or I give my child a vaccine, and I believe that they have turned into the ‘Incredible Hulk,’ then I can write up a one-page report online and submit it, and that then is included. And that’s been done."
A disclaimer on the VAERS website says the "reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness," in part because they "may include incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental and unverified information." People accessing the database must click an option that says that they’ve read and understand the disclaimer.
Offit said VAERS works best as "a hypothesis-generating mechanism" that can tip scientists off to issues for further study, such as the rare cases of blood clots that prompted the agency to recommend a temporary pause on use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
In this case, the CDC has analyzed all the reports of death among COVID-19 vaccine recipients that were submitted to VAERS between Dec. 14, 2020, and May 3.
"A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines," the agency concluded.
To establish causation, scientists need to find proof that an adverse event is significantly more common among vaccinated people than unvaccinated people. VAERS doesn’t provide enough data to do that.
As of May 5, nearly 150 million Americans have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, and many of the early shots went to older and more vulnerable people.
"When you’re giving a COVID-19 vaccine to elderly adults, there are going to be people who die shortly after vaccination because they would have died anyway," Dr. William Moss, executive director of Johns Hopkins’s International Vaccine Access Center, previously told PolitiFact.
An estimated 8,000 Americans die every day of all causes, according to the CDC.
Offit cited the case of baseball legend Hank Aaron, who died of natural causes — likely a stroke — weeks after getting his shot. Social media posts falsely claimed the vaccine killed him.
"You can get the vaccine and still die from other reasons," Offit said.
After his segment baselessly linking the COVID-19 vaccines to "roughly 30" deaths per day, Carlson interviewed Martin Kulldorff, a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School.
Kulldorff told Carlson that VAERS is "not a very useful system," in part because it doesn’t take into account "what is expected by chance" in terms of adverse reactions.
Carlson has questioned the vaccines and U.S. vaccination efforts on several occasions. In April, we rated Pants on Fire his claim that, "Maybe it doesn’t work, and they’re simply not telling you that." Fox News defended that statement by pointing to other instances where Carlson claimed to support vaccines, such as when he said he is "pretty pro-vaccine."
Elsewhere in his May 5 segment, Carlson similarly said the "vaccines aren’t dangerous" based on "the official numbers."
But his claim about thousands of deaths is wrong. On Facebook, a video of the claim was viewed more than 155,000 times, according to CrowdTangle, a social media insights tool.
The video was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
Our ruling
Carlson said, "Between late December of 2020 and last month, a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the COVID vaccine in the United States … The actual number is almost certainly higher."
That’s highly misleading. The source of Carlson’s numbers is the VAERS database, which is often exploited by anti-vaccine activists to make false vaccine claims. The CDC analyzed the VAERS death reports and concluded that there’s no "causal link to COVID-19 vaccines."
People can die after getting vaccinated for any number of reasons unrelated to the vaccine.
We rate Carlson’s statement False.
Epic fail.
Check VAERS and EUDRA and then realize you are peddling the deadliest vaccine in history.
Did you read the paper? Researchers themselves said it's too early to make the link.
Furthermore
This kind of heart inflammation can be caused by a variety of infections, including a bout of COVID-19, as well as certain medications — and there have been rare reports following other types of vaccinations.
None were critically ill. All were healthy enough to be sent home after two to six days in the hospital and are doing “doing pretty well,”
Is this the worst fucking consequence from your doomsday scenario?
Pretty tame and pathetic.
Says the guy posting random screenshots from social media lifted from anti-vax blogs