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Quote from maxpi:
You won't really discover those territorial demonic powers until you are on the front lines of the spiritual war. I was driving up the freeway to pick up a buddy of mine. We were evangelizing people in a half way house, a really bad bunch for the most part, murderers even. We would take one or two of them to a black church about an hour away because it was fun, very loud singing and whatnot in the services and on the way over we would confess all of the sins of everybody in the car and we would start seeing into heaven, and these halfway house guys would be all amazed at how accepted they could be by God and be seeing stuff in the spirit and telling us about it. It is a pretty powerful ministry. Anyhow, I am driving along by myself minding my own biz when something hit me on the forehead and in an instant I don't know how to drive a car!! I was just flying along at 70 looking all around at the cars near me and trying to figure out how to drive!! I got it back in a minute or two. Realize this, I felt the thing hit me on the head but the windshield is intact, nothing physical hit me but the effect was real similar. We prayed later to find out what it was and pretty much had to conclude it was a territorial demon. It was too sudden to be anything organic in my head, I mean it was like taking a fastball to the forehead.
That is eerily similar to one of the mission stories I have heard.
I know you're not "whacked"!
Quote from JohnnyK:
Do you really think the devil is behind all this? Is the devil that eloquent?
Why do you ascribe so much power to demons? Have you ever witnessed someone channeling a demonic message?
What is a demon, in your opinion? Why are you assuming they are attempting to decieve you via channeling? Do you really think they can say things that may cause you to lose your salvation if you listened to them? What kinds of things do demons talk about? Are they eloquent? Do they talk just like angels? If so, have you ever heard anyone channeling anything other than a demon?
Believe it or not, I'm not trying to be aggravating. I was just pointing out that from the Christian standpoint you've got devils and you've got angels and there's no in between. And that, btw, is substantiated by the fact that (as far as I know) NO channeled message has ever channeled anything remotely traditionally Christian. It is ALWAYS occult/new age/eastern in theology.
Coincidence? I think not...
Um the "whacked " reference is in referral to , like i said, what he was doing-the scenario sounds like a setup for a lynching is all.
This kind of stuff happens all the time, yet biblical types claim a monopoly on the situation, and always end up with "it was a demon", despite other investigation.
This kind of stuff happens all the time, yet biblical types claim a monopoly on the situation, and always end up with "it was a demon", despite other investigation.
Quote from acronym:
Was it actually, the first history book, and your so thrilled bits of it have some grounding in archeology that you have faith in it?
What about herodutus, who travelled extensively through the known world at the time-tonnes of stuff he wrote has been verified, archeologically, backed up by all sorts of scientific evidence.
He also claimed a race of three headed people lived somewhere in northern africa, among other things.
Please read my post to Stu. I did NOT, for the third time now, say that I could prove God or Christianity through archaeology. In fact, I said the opposite.
Quote from acronym:
Indeed, you just stated the bible hints at this, but your suggesting minerals, magnetism, natural forces (which you beleive is the work of god) are not spiritual?
Thats one of the ironies of christianity i suppose, that despite the fact god supposedly made everything, and loves everything in a godly way (stretching for adjectives here) most followers of the idea manage to hate everything, and regard most natural things as unclean or evil or something.
I agree that everything is spiritual by one definition of the word.
But I don't know of any evidence that minerals and physical forces such as magnetism have any supernatural characteristics or attributes.
I know that's something that is widely accepted in the New Age. But where the evidence is for it - well, I have no idea...
Sorry, was just pointing things out, i happen to like archeology and paleontology, rather than "dragon bones" as they were first described.
Archeology is imporatant imo, and at the end of the day, the only solid link to the past-looking at the mistakes or assumptions made on the basis of old bones, there is no question most of them were the direct result of religious dogma, superstition and "spiritual"subjectivity, there is no question of that.
Archeology is imporatant imo, and at the end of the day, the only solid link to the past-looking at the mistakes or assumptions made on the basis of old bones, there is no question most of them were the direct result of religious dogma, superstition and "spiritual"subjectivity, there is no question of that.
Quote from acronym:
Sorry, was just pointing things out, i happen to like archeology and paleontology, rather than "dragon bones" as they were first described.
Archeology is imporatant imo, and at the end of the day, the only solid link to the past-looking at the mistakes or assumptions made on the basis of old bones, there is no question most of them were the direct result of religious dogma, superstition and "spiritual"subjectivity, there is no question of that.
Sorry, you lost me. Not sure what you're getting at here.
Quote from ShoeshineBoy:
I agree that everything is spiritual by one definition of the word.
But I don't know of any evidence that minerals and physical forces such as magnetism have any supernatural characteristics or attributes.
I know that's something that is widely accepted in the New Age. But where the evidence is for it - well, I have no idea...
If you had read the correct bits of the bible, that would be clear-made man out of mud, life force, etc........earth, materialism, not dominion over animals, frollicking with carnivores, not hating basically everything, or dismissing any other veiwpoints or exterminating those who hold them.
History suggests that religion is not the way, the truth, the life.
That IS the evidence, imo.
BTW, magnetism , chemistry, solar navigation,WRITING and biology were ALL regarded as the "devils" work at one time or another, and still are, IE , SUPERNATURAL, or evil.
See?
Quote from ShoeshineBoy:
...(as far as I know) NO channeled message has ever channeled anything remotely traditionally Christian.
Thanks for pointing that out!
We now have a clue!
Are you really suggesting that all these eloquent messages...when not reinforcing your predetermined ideas about what is christianity....are demonic?
JohnnyK