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What is your religion/religious heritage?

  • Christian

    Votes: 54 42.9%
  • Buddist

    Votes: 7 5.6%
  • Muslim

    Votes: 11 8.7%
  • Hindu

    Votes: 4 3.2%
  • Liberal

    Votes: 3 2.4%
  • Marxist

    Votes: 3 2.4%
  • Agnostic

    Votes: 44 34.9%

  • Total voters
    126
Quote from ShoeshineBoy:

I didn’t ask my question very well. What I’m really asking is this:

This neurosurgeon has credentials just as good as any of the scholars you cited. So why immediately discount her story? The only reason is because it doesn’t fit into one’s anti-supernatural worldview if you ask me…

i didnt discount her story because she had witnesses and pictures and ufos have a natural explaination so therefore could be possible.
 
Quote from vhehn:

what does this have to do with the bible. ufo sightings if true would not be supernatural.

There is NO evidence for UFO’s being physical, i.e. no one has ever found a “TriCorder” or a “Dilithium Crystal” or any other piece of physical evidence from a UFO. What they have found are the typical patterns of phenomenon associated with the occult/supernatural. Here’s a couple of examples:

1. Energy disturbances, i.e. trees/plants burned or flattened.
2. Objects performing phenomenon that defy physical laws, i.e. heavy objects trun a sharp and instantaneous 90 degree turn.

So the bottom line is that you must use the same criterion to investigate UFO phenomenon as you would other purported supernatural event.
 
Quote from vhehn:

i didnt discount her story because she had witnesses and pictures and ufos have a natural explaination so therefore could be possible.

There is no “natural” explanation for lights dancing and hovering a few hundred feet from your balcony. Not unless you beiieve in Tinkerbelle…
 
Quote from ShoeshineBoy:

There is no “natural” explanation for lights dancing and hovering a few hundred feet from your balcony. Not unless you beiieve in Tinkerbelle…

sure there could be a natural explaination. i will research it further later. have to go scoop some snow.


sho, i know its uncomfortable to have your security blanket unwound but a free mind is worth the short term discomfort.
 
Quote from vhehn:

wouldn't it be an important issue to know that modern scholars now believe that many of the biblical stories never happened?

1. THE DEITY OF JESUS CHRIST

"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men." (Philippians 2:5-7)

Modifications to key verses such as this one and others containing titles of the Lord Jesus Christ denigrate the doctrine of His deity.




First of all, some of the oldest manuscripts are not always considered the best.

Second of all, and most importantly, there are a dozen other places where Jesus is clearly assigned deity in the New Testament.

These are all very weak arguments for the same reason...
 
Quote from vhehn:


sho, i know its uncomfortable to have your security blanket unwound but a free mind is worth the short term discomfort.

I was about to say the same thing to you. :D
 
Quote from acronym:

Ball lightning? Various insects are known to flouresce as well, and swarm.

Very unlikely. Besides the fact that ball lightning and insects don't match the physical description, it would be very unlikely that either would be cited all over a city of three million people. Trust me - this is one that has even the experts baffled.

Read her description again - either she was smoking peyote or this was not ball lightning:

"I took mental note of every nuance - size, shape, color, distance. Each sphere was an oval, between 3 and 6 feet across. The orbs seemed to be hovering motionlessly in perfect symmetry, one on top, and the other two aligned underneath, like a pyramid. The soothing amber light contained with in each orb looked different from any light I had ever seen. It didn't glare at all, and was uniform throughout, reminding me of a holiday luinaria that shines from within, without the light extending beyond the edge."
 
Quote from ShoeshineBoy:

You still didn't answer my question... :eek:

What kind of proof are you looking for? What kind of miracle would you prefer? How many witnesses? How many of the witnesses need to be dead?

JohnnyK
 
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