Your Mandatory Covid-19 Vaccine

Tsing Tao said:
Sorry, but this is totally general and not accurate.

You have to break it down by demographics. You can't say a 25 year old healthy individual is 20 times more likely to die unvaccinated.

You probably can say so for a 70 year old who is diabetic and obese.
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Many studies have demonstrated that you are more than 20 times more likely to die if you are unvaccinated. Over all age groups, gender, and comorbidity conditions. The minimum number in a study for a time period in the U.S. has been 14 times more likely to die if unvaccinated.

How many times does the science need to be provided to you before it sinks home.

Unvaccinated People 20 Times More Likely to Die From COVID: Texas Study
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covi...le-20-times-more-likely-die-covid-texas-study

Rates of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by Vaccination Status
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
 
gwb-trading said:
Many studies have demonstrated that you are more than 20 times more likely to die if you are unvaccinated. Over all age groups, gender, and comorbidity conditions. The minimum number in a study for a time period in the U.S. has been 14 times more likely to die if unvaccinated.

How many times does the science need to be provided to you before it sinks home.

Unvaccinated People 20 Times More Likely to Die From COVID: Texas Study
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covi...le-20-times-more-likely-die-covid-texas-study

Rates of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by Vaccination Status
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
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How could it be possible that - regardless of co-morbidity risk, age and other complications - the risk is the same across all demographics, age and everything else?

How could that possibly be true??

You suck at critical thinking.
 
Tsing Tao said:
How could it be possible that - regardless of co-morbidity risk, age and other complications - the risk is the same across all demographics, age and everything else?

How could that possibly be true??

You suck at critical thinking.
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The risk is different across age groups, genders, comorbidities, etc. The average difference when comparing like conditions is death is 20 times more likely for the unvaccinated. In some scenarios it is much more. The CDC link I provided shows all the data.
 
ipatent said:
He's referring to the percentage reduction of the risk. Still, I tend to agree that this should vary by age group.
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Of course it varies. Saying "you are more than 20 times more likely to die" is just stupid fear porn. How much more? Who is more than 20 times? A healthy 22 year old is NOT more than 20 times more likely. They might be 5 times more. Or no times more. A very sick 65 year old with 4 co-morbidities might be 80 times more.

Just stupid. But that's what I've come to expect from the NPC and the Narrative™.
 
gwb-trading said:
The risk is different across age groups, genders, comorbidities, etc. The average difference when comparing like conditions is death is 20 times more likely for the unvaccinated. In some scenarios it is much more. The CDC link I provided shows all the data.
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Who gives a shit about the average? If you want someone to get vaccinated, this is what you say to scare them into it. To push a narrative.

If you want to convince someone based on science, you provide specifics so people can see how much they SPECIFICALLY are at risk.

Unless, of course, the actual data doesn't work to your narrative. Then you obfuscate. like you do.
 
Tsing Tao said:
Who gives a shit about the average? If you want someone to get vaccinated, this is what you say to scare them into it. To push a narrative.

If you want to convince someone based on science, you provide specifics so people can see how much they are at risk.

Unless, of course, the actual data doesn't work to your narrative. Then you obfuscate. like you do.
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Just remember that over 95% of those in ICU sucking on ventilators recently are still unvaccinated. Many are still in the 30 to 60 age range.

The data from the CDC and other proper medical sources fully supports that the risk of dying from Covid is much greater for the unvaccinated --- across every comparison group.
 
gwb-trading said:
Just remember that over 95% of those in ICU sucking on ventilators recently are still unvaccinated. Many are still in the 30 to 60 age range.

The data from the CDC and other proper medical sources fully supports that the risk of dying from Covid is much greater for the unvaccinated --- across every comparison group.
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Quantify the "many" of the unvaccinated being in the ICU sucking on ventilators that are 30-40.

Otherwise its just subjective nonsense.
 
United Airlines: Employee deaths dropped to zero after vaccine mandate
https://www.axios.com/united-airlin...ate-c33cebde-faee-45ef-b1da-0ebdb337b09e.html

Since United Airlines' COVID-19 vaccine mandate went into effect last summer, no employee has died, CEO Scott Kirby said in a letter to employees.

Driving the news: Kirby said that prior to the vaccine mandate, "tragically, more than one United employee on average *per week* was dying from COVID,” but "we’ve now gone eight straight weeks with zero COVID-related deaths among our vaccinated employees."
  • He said in the letter that there are approximately 3,000 employees who have tested positive for the virus but added that no vaccinated employee is hospitalized.
Our thought bubble, via Axios' Joann Muller: Kirby got out in front of corporate America with his controversial vaccine mandate and defended the decision by saying he was tired of seeing employees die. With this letter, he seems to be vindicated.
State of play: Thousands of flights were canceled during the holidays due to the Omicron surge.
  • Kirby said in his letter that "[w]hile we go to great lengths to avoid cancelling flights," United has "been able to get a high percentage of our customers on other flights and close to their original arrival time."
What he's saying: "Since our vaccine policy went into effect, the hospitalization rate among our employees has been 100x lower than the general population in the U.S.," Kirby said.
  • "ased on United’s prior experience and the nationwide data related to COVID fatalities among the unvaccinated, that means there are approximately 8-10 United employees who are alive today because of our vaccine requirement."

Flashback: Kirby told Axios in August that he was tired of seeing his employees die from the virus: "For me, the fact that people are 300 times more likely to die if they’re unvaccinated is all I need to know ... It's about saving lives."
 
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