The most ardent defenders of social justice are subconsciously the most racist.
Your kid's SAT score depends on your income and where you live
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Lawrence Jones: SAT 'adversity score' is 'insulting,' implies 'people like me' can't make it
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=12236
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What is the purpose of this pithy quote? You can pithy-quote till the end of the earth but once you get going, you start saying things like:
What you're mad about is not that someone may get a chance that they wouldn't have otherwise gotten, but what you're mad about is "how dare these people not acknowledge that 'certain populations' are naturally inferior". What is wrong with you dude? Do you think about what you're saying? Do you even know anything about anyone from these populations with general traits that exist despite any external, and without any internal, influence?
I highly doubt it.
I agree with this guy:
But at the same time, I have seen that there is talent being left to die and not achieve what they could have because they had the horrible luck of being born into a single parent poor family, while Clarence with two good parents and goes to a private school named Cranbrook dumb lucks his way to a PhD and lecturers job after a failed rap career funded by mom and dad. You see it all the time. US politics is full of these people. I never knew how much this was true until I could afford to send my kids to elite schools and where these kids end up after high school.
If you are interested in the positive evolution of society, that is, less poor people, then it's worth it to have some percentage of admissions be "adversity" related, even if statistically, that ends up being somewhat tied to race because the other way around already exists in many other circumstances. I can bet that you and the other guy will probably disproportionately hire people who look and come from the same places as you. Look up the statistics and let me know.
College is probably too late IMO in which case the point is moot.
Edit: All that being said, I don't support handicapped scores because the overall impact isn't obvious in the end. People should be able to opt out of this situation.
Double edit: "why are we pushing college so much still when a lot of these college students that graduate with a degree still can't get jobs." <-- this exactly. It is diluting the population but not why you think: college is increasingly useless for all but the more difficult majors like STEM. So ironically, they are probably harming these kids in some way. Trade school might be better.
Triple edit: A good, intelligent, humorous discussion of the problem (IMO):
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Goodluck thinking that. You could not be more wrong. It's identity politics at its finest.
You are right. You are spouting identity politics at its finest.
Btw - apparently the score is not driven by the individual but the community. So everyone from the same school gets the same score. Whites, blacks, Hispanics from the same poor school in queens will get a more adverse score than the Asians and whites st Greenwich high school.
It’s an acknowledgement that academic proficiency is one part genetics and one part nurture. In your own life I’m sure you have seen the difference wealth can provide in terms of education and academic opportunities.
I've been in many positions in the workspaces over the years. And as a person in charge of hiring, I would not give a damn about the background of someone. I want to know...Can you do the job I am hiring you for, efficiently?
That's all it takes. WTF cares if you have a p.hD in STEM. Can you do this job, which you have applied for, in an adequate amount of time as I have prescribed, better than the previous person who applied before you, and the person who will apply after you? I simply do not give a flying fuck about your education, because that doesn't matter when you sit down at your desk to do the work. It is how you do the work, and the results that follow, that matter to me. I don't care HOW you got your skills. So long as you have them. Having a university degree does not mean in any way that you have those skills at the start.
Jesus. Why is this such a difficult concept? The world has gotten so stupidly illogical.
That's all it takes. WTF cares if you have a p.hD in STEM. Can you do this job, which you have applied for, in an adequate amount of time as I have prescribed, better than the previous person who applied before you, and the person who will apply after you? I simply do not give a flying fuck about your education, because that doesn't matter when you sit down at your desk to do the work. It is how you do the work, and the results that follow, that matter to me. I don't care HOW you got your skills. So long as you have them. Having a university degree does not mean in any way that you have those skills at the start.
Jesus. Why is this such a difficult concept? The world has gotten so stupidly illogical.
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Quote the source and not some interpreted secondary derived content then we can talk. I pointed to the source via graphs and directors of the board directly referring to race in interviews. Where is your authoritative source or are you just sharing your feelings and opinions?
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But are you going to ask me how many manhole covers there are in Manhattan to determine that
