I get what you're saying Dave, but it's really just semantics. Why would they provide a diversity (sorry, adversity) score if not to explicity alter the meaning of the actual score.
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Your kid's SAT score depends on your income and where you live
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I get what you're saying Dave, but it's really just semantics. Why would they provide a diversity (sorry, adversity) score if not to explicity alter the meaning of the actual score.
Race is not part of the score. The fact that you make mention of race says you aren’t reading or processing the article properly.
Implicitly it is. The fact that you are ignoring the tendency of schools and people to group by race says you aren't thinking critically.Race is not part of the score. The fact that you make mention of race says you aren’t reading or processing the article properly.
It is already virtually impossible for a middle class white man to get any kind of financial aid unless he is top 10% in his class. Ten years ago,I had a 2270 sat,3.5 gpa and got accepted into a top 50 liberal arts school-no aid, $50000 a year. A black friend of mine with a sat score a full 1000 points lower,gpa nearly a point lower,was accepted into the same school, full scholarship. It was at that point I realized I had no respect for america's education system- take what you can from it and give as little back as possible-starve the beast. Or you could break bread, crumb by crumb into the leviathan's den.
The fact that you needed financial aid means you and your parents are losers according to most people in this thread.
Implicitly it is. The fact that you are ignoring the tendency of schools and people to group by race says you aren't thinking critically.
They already do that by other means like the direct question on your application that asks your race.
The most disgusting thing is how some of the most endowed schools come and pester alumni every months with emails and invitations to donate more and more and more. I made it a policy of my own to never ever give a single penny to my Alma mater because it is wealthy by any standards and I rather look to use the money I set aside for charitable giving to allocate to those who are truly in need. The American educational system is completely messed up in so many ways. A Masters at UToronto, UBC, or U of Waterloo (all schools that have better AI programs as part of their CS departments than most top 10 schools in the US) costs a fraction of what one would pay at Stanford or Carnegie Mellon. I figured that my contribution in the form of an exorbitant tuition to my alma mater, CMU, was way enough that I contributed to that school
It is already virtually impossible for a middle class white man to get any kind of financial aid unless he is top 10% in his class. Ten years ago,I had a 2270 sat,3.5 gpa and got accepted into a top 50 liberal arts school-no aid, $50000 a year. A black friend of mine with a sat score a full 1000 points lower,gpa nearly a point lower,was accepted into the same school, full scholarship. It was at that point I realized I had no respect for america's education system- take what you can from it and give as little back as possible-starve the beast. Or you could break bread, crumb by crumb into the leviathan's den.
Of course it does include race, or skin color in case you prefer to split words.
Not race. The privelege score does not include race.
The most disgusting thing is how some of the most endowed schools come and pester alumni every months with emails and invitations to donate more and more and more. I made it a policy of my own to never ever give a single penny to my Alma mater because it is wealthy by any standards and I rather look to use the money I set aside for charitable giving to allocate to those who are truly in need. The American educational system is completely messed up in so many ways. A Masters at UToronto, UBC, or U of Waterloo (all schools that have better AI programs as part of their CS departments than most top 10 schools in the US) costs a fraction of what one would pay at Stanford or Carnegie Mellon. I figured that my contribution in the form of an exorbitant tuition to my alma mater, CMU, was way enough that I contributed to that school
I agree as I paid full tuition (my parents are smart and hardworking unlike others on here who needed financial aid). However if that school gave me a shot i would otherwise not had (through financial aid) I would be giving them a lot.
Of course it does include race, or skin color in case you prefer to split words.
The score does not include race. It’s explicitly stated in the article.
I think we miscommunicate. You may be correct regarding this particular article. But I talk about the actual issue and intent and what is exactly profiled. The board does use proprietary databases that clearly indicate the racial makeup of the neighborhood, median salary, crime stats, educational standards of the location the applicant indicated he or she grew up or lives at. The large portion of the actual revelations by the test board displays graphs and mentions race, so of course is race a huge factor in this score.
The score does not include race. It’s explicitly stated in the article.
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