What are the bars of the cage made of? If my wife was in the cage and she knew I was losing money, she would chew through them to save her half. Her venom can eat through high carbon steel like it was butter. I'll bet my kid could pick that lock.
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So anyway, what doesn't lilduck have that he needs?
What would he get that he doesn't have if he did what I suggested?
He is not going to do it and he is not going to get what he needs. Thats no problem it is just the way it turns out for most potential traders who do not make it.
To fill in a comprehensive log that reflects what the display I suggested (no price showing and using all the things susanaDT tried and failed at) takes one psychologically based ingredient.
Feel what it is like filling in four log pages a day by filling in row after row as 81 bars go by in 6 1/2 hours. Be a beginning trader doing this for five days.
Psychologically what you get is a psychological set of feelings that come from only one place. The set of feelings that come from doing a routine for 6 1/2 hours five days in a row using 5 minute non price bars. Call it non price action trading.
Taking price off the chart takes price out of the picture and all you fill in is the ime of the trade (to the second showing on the priceless T&S chart).
When you debrief you fill in the prices to see you pile of chips at the end of the day.
Filling in the rows of the log begins to give the airhead trader with a gun to his head a ROUTINE.
An airhead has no routine and he, on the other hand is learning failure and fear and anxiety ALL of the time until the gun goes off psychologically speaking.l are there some guys in ET who have shot themselves in the head.
What do they do after that?? Lilduck calls people names, especially when he doesn't get it like today elsewhere.
Trading involves learning to reach closure periodically. reaching close several times in a fice minute bar engenders the feeling of reaching closure and the feeling that you have done what is necessary to know what is going on at a particular time in the day.
Then you take that feeling with you and you begin again to get the job done to know what is going on.
Putting a gun to your head for 25k a year is silly BS. Instead, you do the log and use non price action trading to come to be able to process information completing a routine of doing one row of a log over and over for 6 1/2 hours a day.
Imagine doing this for a year and trading as many contracts as profits from the debriefing show you are permitted. Start with one contract.
what are the reqirements to do this?
Put the gun down.
Stop BS ing yourself that you do not need a comprehensive log.
Get a four color ball point pen.
Sit for a f*cking 6 and 1/2 hours a day for a week and do four pages a day of logs.
So it can't be done!!!!
Np problem... start more threads .... do silly shit for days on end.
Be an airhead with a gun to your head.
Quote from sellingrich:
What are the bars of the cage made of? If my wife was in the cage and she knew I was losing money, she would chew through them to save her half. Her venom can eat through high carbon steel like it was butter. I'll bet my kid could pick that lock.

Quote from lilduckling:
Foot prints
One night lilduck had a dream. He dreamed He was walking along the beach with the GROB. Across the sky flashed trades from His life. For each trade He noticed two sets of footprints in the sand. One belonging to Him and the other to the GROB.
When the last trade of His life flashed before Him, he looked back at the footprints in the sand. He noticed that many times along the path of His life there was only one set of footprints. He also noticed that it happened at the very lowest and saddest trades of His life.
This really bothered Him and He questioned the GROB about it. GROB you said that once I decided to follow you, you'd walk with me all the way. But I have noticed that during the most troublesome trades in my life there is only one set of footprints. I don't understand why when I needed you most you would leave me.
The GROB replied, my precious, precious lilduckling, I Love you and I would never leave you! During your times of trial and suffering when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I was doing all the trades for you.

Quote from jack hershey:
Hey lilduck, I wrote a poem about trading, hope to get it published, what do you think?
Hello darkness my new friend,
I heard you calling and came again
Standing in these graves of dreams
I can hear my fallen tradersâ screams
My eyes are red, my monitor is blurry
My heart is sad, my mind in a flurry
No more trades, no more posts
The ones that care will hurt the most
Hello darkness my new friend
I can not continue to pretend
To be free, to escape this cage
A life of lies and full of rage
The last grains of sand are falling
I can almost hear an angel calling
Hope this last trade will be a lesson
I sold my comp for a Smith and Wesson
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Quote from MandelbrotSet:
Ah, another thread taken to surreal ville ... good thing I don't care anymore.
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Very interesting orginal premise, lil' duck. But I really don't like analogies that put time constraints and physical, mental or emotional stress on human learning and behavior potential.
That isn't the optimal way to process information and learn ... nice thread though, at least the parts of it that stay on topic.
Just hit the complain button and keep on mov'in, same as with any other thread disruptor who overstays their welcome.Quote from lilduckling:
I wanted to stay on topic, but was overwhelmed with oncoming buffoonery and gave up