Young guy wanting to start trading

There is no edge buying or selling options. It is all priced in. Hedging doesn't work for us retails, we make money only if our opinion is different from the market's and we are right.

To trade where the market might be wrong, you may want to go where few people trades.

False. There is an edge. It’s very counterintuitive, but it’s there.
 
MKT, good point. You are right, I never thought of it that way. Giving people false hope is cruel.

Lately ET is becoming more a social forum than a trading forum. It is harder and harder to find answers to trading questions.
ET is not really an ideal place for learning, that's because there are myriads of ways to trade.
Every person is an individual with different preferences, time frames, software, brokers, instruments, stops, TA, FA....you name it.
Personally in terms of my individual technique, hardly anything have I gained from ET, I just dream up my own quirky way of arriving at how to divine trading.
What I gain most from ET besides a chuckle due to so many funny guys here, is ideas often not directly linked to trading, software, hardware, news releases, web sites and just listening to chatter.
What every aspiring trader needs learn do is dig into 'Google search' and hunt down ideas for themselves.
Also, don't be afraid to spend money on your equipment. Trading IS A BUSINESS, buy the best you can afford.
Tell you the truth about something, 18 months ago I bought some gear to experiment on creating a new sort of algo. Results looked promising after this time but the hardware was I thought a bit too budget, so bought out of USA more heavy lift gear this week it arrived. I thought maybe I would pay it off in 2-3 weeks, it took me 2 hours of trading to pay it off. Not boasting BUT....without leaning upon yourself, your talent which constantly needs stretching, you will struggle. A businessperson needs original thinking, that sort of stuff will rarely be shared on ET, YOU must create it.
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I will mentor you for 100,000 dollars. You will make millions upon millions. All you need is 500 bucks and a futures account.

Counteroffer: I'll pay you 100,000,000 instead of 100,000 once I've made it based on your method. Let's roll up the old sleeves, shall we?
 
I don't trade options, I trade futures, and I have about 4 months practicing the VSA method and I can understand the markets very well. I all the days can make good entries and have nice returns (Demo with paid market data and real time charts). The VSA method works with the law of the supply and demand and another laws that are very logicals, and this method is based in the Wyckoff teories about accumulation and distribution.

The market prices and all the prices moves with the supply and demand, and VSA have a very logical and good form to look how they appears.

All the days in the charts I can see accumulation and distribution, trends, supports and resistances that works, and is true that it wasn't that I wanted to read, but where I trade, what I'm doing, works very well.

That's fine. I thought the same thing years ago (with other methods). In hindsight and on demo, I thought I had the market all figured out. But the market doesn't let you superimpose your own structures on it...at least not for long. And the thought of someone understanding the markets "very well" after 4 months is laughable (no nicer way to put it).

Wait until you start trading live. If Wyckoff, VSA and CME Futures Group stuff worked that well, tens of thousands would trade for a living from their living rooms.

Think about it...if firms with PhDs, faster execution, much better software and $ millions of R&D have trouble beating the market...you think you can with 100+ year old methods and cheap retail trader software?
 
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Just curious, power or sail? If sail, how are they rigged? Sloop, cutter, ketch, etc?

Me, I want to own, sail and live aboard a ketch. My favorite is the Pearson 424.

I've spent 20 years living aboard, seven of them in the Caribbean. In hindsight, this would not be a bad life for a trader... I was broke during most of those years, and didn't feel the lack of money very much (it takes very little to live out there - most of your food is free and within easy reach.) Sold my Morgan 45 last year and shifted to a 40' RV, and am doing my trading from the Colorado mountains right now.

But you must own a solid set of relevant skills. The ocean forgives very, very little - and kills the fools and the ignorant.
 
My big boat is a Bruce Roberts Offshore 44 but beamier than the stock plans. Sloop, aft cockpit fiberglass version, built 1979, Westerbeke/Perkins 4-107 diesel, very spacious below.

My second boat, the one before my Morgan 453, was a 34' Dutch steel ketch (pretty close to what they call a gouwzee in those parts.) Being a pretty decent welder, I'd thought about building a bigger boat - looked at the plans for a Roberts and a few others - but never quite got around to it.

Maintenance on steel sucks, unless it was done right when built. Most aren't.
 
I have no reason to post here. I’m 22, a college dropout. I suppose I’m subconsciously looking for a mentor. I have a friend of a friend a few years older than me who works at HRT, maybe I’ll ask him. I know I have potential but I need to learn how to pick a lock. By this time in my life I’ve become aware that some doors won’t open with a swift kick. I’ve tried knocking with little success, but maybe my tones aren’t sweet enough to welcome in. It doesn’t help that I look like a monster in the night time.

If anyone’s out there I would appreciate some advice. Tough love. Tell me to quit, to give up, to choose another path. Maybe I’ll follow your advice.

Join the military (any branch). You'll get some basic life skills in a hurry. If you survive, and most people do, you'll be in a much better position to figure out what you really want to do with your life after that. If you get a dishonorable discharge, then suicide is probably your best option. Like you said, tough love.
 
We are fortunate enough to grow up during a time where we can learn everything online!

You also get to build relationships with smart people.

Becoming an entrepreneur has never been easier. There really is no excuses.

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False. There is an edge. It’s very counterintuitive, but it’s there.
I am happy that you found your edge! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

One can also find an edge buying options. :cool:

But there is no edge if you regularly, mechanically write (or buy) calls or puts. I tried mechanically selling hundreds of calls/puts for 6 months back in 2013. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
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I don't use the software, I prefere to analyze by myself the charts.

Think about it...if firms with PhDs, faster execution, much better software and $ millions of R&D have trouble beating the market...you think you can with 100+ year old methods and cheap retail trader software?
Let me try. Between my demo and the real market the only differences are my feelings and nerves, and the use of my real account instead the demo account.
 
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