You will lose more in the stock market than in a casino

First of all if you people cant figure it out, Dazz = "Dr." Dean Hadley.

I knew it the first time I ever spoke to him and went into his post history and then watched the Hadley videos on YT.

Anyway, I find threads like these funny. "Day traders cant be profitable" yet there are a good amount of people doing it. I am part of a small FB group that is linked to a "well known" course out there. These people will post trades - on their own accord. Not asking to "follow them" or anything like that, just showing what their results are. Trading in Bonds, Oil, Gold - whatever. Posting their loses, etc. Showing it can be done, and they havent been trading for upteen years.

The problem is the majority of people, even those in this thread, are a bunch of idiots when it comes to a lot of things. You might think you are smart or understand day trading or any other subject, but when I see some of yalls typing and you dont know the difference between your/you're it is a "tell" on your intelligence. Not that you have to be particularly smart to day trade, but it helps when it comes to objectivity.

People in these "studies" (most people dont even know how to read a study properly and almost anyone can post a study on some subject) are the average population. The average population are a bunch of retards. Sad but true.

Im part of a "for rent" place on FB for my city. You wouldnt believe how many people take others word for renting a house and then show up with inspection stickers posted on the property saying the house cannot be lived in. And its more than one person being scammed by the same dude.

Most people day trading are morons who, like was said earlier, want to get rich quick. Not understanding that you can get rich quick after you get understanding. And understanding something comes with some time. Ive had a lot of careers in my short time on earth and every single one I had to learn OJT. And the more complex ones, for example Locksmithing, took a year or 2 to be as good as someone doing 10+ years. But I know what Im doing when I learn something new, its the same cycle. Not know shit, take in a whole bunch of info, try to sort through the info, ask tons of questions, understand more the more I do it, become an expert in a short amount of time. It is possible to cram years worth of knowledge down to a few years if you are diligent/a zealot about what you are wanting to learn.

Trading is like learning a new language. And i can tell you from experience that learning a new language is difficult and requires time everyday to repeat and learn the basics the best you can.

Most day traders around here fail because of their ego. And while I dont think you should take in the opinions or ideas of everyone, you should realize that there is *possibly* someone out there smarter than you are that knows what they are doing more than you. Thats where being objective comes in. And if you cant be objective with yourself you definitely wont be objective when it comes to the markets. Just like most people are morons, most people like to lie to themselves about their abilities.

Time doesnt guarantee a fuckin thing. You can be an idiot and do something for 10 years and still be a fuckin idiot. Just look at the people who drive everyday. This is a simple task they do day in and day out for decades and still cant get it right.

It is no different when it comes to trading or any other task/occupation. There is just more at stake when trading and it requires less major fuck ups, which can be mitigated to a large extent.

But hey, Ill wait to see another one of these threads next week.
 
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First of all if you people cant figure it out, Dazz = "Dr." Dean Hadley.

I knew it the first time I ever spoke to him and went into his post history and then watched the Hadley videos on YT...

Two questions, then.

1. How can you be absolutely sure Dazz is Dr. Handey?

2. Are you with him or against him?
 
Two questions, then.

1. How can you be absolutely sure Dazz is Dr. Handey?

2. Are you with him or against him?


Intuition. From watching the videos, the minor interaction I had with him in DM, and his post history here. Adding all that up.

If you are looking for hard evidence, I wont have it. Life cant always be based on "hard evidence", another myth that is perpetrated nowadays for the sake of looking "intelligent"

For or against him? IDC either way TBH, i just know I didnt like the cut of his jib.
 
Good enough for me then.

The one thing I can tell you, his staunch support of Handley against anything bad is suspect, and he brings up Hadley at every turn he gets. Signs of an egomaniac. His constant promotion of Handley is also suspect. Just some signs I noticed a while back.
 
Maybe right, should of just spent my money on hookers and given up many years ago, but where is the fun in that, ohhh yeah hookers, damn it!
 
Margin aka leverage is another layer of risk on top of market odds. For beginners, it's best to trade with own money. Find a trading method that one is most comfortable with. I have been trading for more than 10 years and I am still refining my method. Learn to be patient with the market and not be forced into a trader e.g. wanting market to pay our salaries. Please read about the fur coat at the end of chapter 12 of Reminiscences of a Stock Operator by Edwin Lefevre. Everyone was trying to get the market to pay for the fur coat and failed.:( As long as we have the money in our trading account, we are in business. :cool:
 
Very well thought argumentation with in particular alot of facts and definitely no emotions. How many years of your life did you waste chasing a mirage?




No man this is a moralization thread. If that much of the competition are dumb enough to be day gamblers it means it's really not that hard to make money, only requires outsmarting donkeys. Plus it's always fun to laugh at the brokers milk cows.




And here we have it :rolleyes:

Your great success example is Dean Handley. This guy's trading room guy was charged by the CFTC for fraud (and the whole business with it).

"The CFTC’s complaint alleges that, as a result of the fraudulent solicitation scheme, the defendants received approximately $1.3 million in subscription fees from more than 300 members located in the United States and other countries."

"Falsely claiming that Jousef’s “live” trades were profitable when in fact Jousef never executed any live trades in the “live trading room,” much less profitable ones;"

Jousef is (allegedly) his partner in crime.

https://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/8006-19



Roulette has more odd blips than day trading. That tells alot. And also data has shown that there was no learning with day trading: day traders are not more successful with more experience, actually they do worse as time goes by. The results of studies clearly show it is gambling but with worse odds.

Of course what we call day traders are not market makers (duh) or stat arb quants, they make money.




Yes, he is so selective, the day gambling "guides" he selects get charged with fraud and the CFTC claims they never took one of their troll trades let alone made a profit.

Some retail day traders make money: the penny stock pump and dump scams. Buy then send signal to victims, then sell to them. In Forex there is no pump and dump like this, therefore not a single retail day trader makes money other than the odd blip of luck (normal distribution) and luck always runs out.

don't be ignorant; Overnight nor Handley are mentioned in the CFTC complaint.
 
*sighs* Do you not read, man? Re-read what I typed?

They are all in my journal, listed here in the journal section.
post your publications, post your videos Overnight - go ahead - waiting. I suspect when you are dragged out into the light of day there will be Overnothing.
 
First of all if you people cant figure it out, Dazz = "Dr." Dean Hadley.

I knew it the first time I ever spoke to him and went into his post history and then watched the Hadley videos on YT.

Anyway, I find threads like these funny. "Day traders cant be profitable" yet there are a good amount of people doing it. I am part of a small FB group that is linked to a "well known" course out there. These people will post trades - on their own accord. Not asking to "follow them" or anything like that, just showing what their results are. Trading in Bonds, Oil, Gold - whatever. Posting their loses, etc. Showing it can be done, and they havent been trading for upteen years.

The problem is the majority of people, even those in this thread, are a bunch of idiots when it comes to a lot of things. You might think you are smart or understand day trading or any other subject, but when I see some of yalls typing and you dont know the difference between your/you're it is a "tell" on your intelligence. Not that you have to be particularly smart to day trade, but it helps when it comes to objectivity.

People in these "studies" (most people dont even know how to read a study properly and almost anyone can post a study on some subject) are the average population. The average population are a bunch of retards. Sad but true.

Im part of a "for rent" place on FB for my city. You wouldnt believe how many people take others word for renting a house and then show up with inspection stickers posted on the property saying the house cannot be lived in. And its more than one person being scammed by the same dude.

Most people day trading are morons who, like was said earlier, want to get rich quick. Not understanding that you can get rich quick after you get understanding. And understanding something comes with some time. Ive had a lot of careers in my short time on earth and every single one I had to learn OJT. And the more complex ones, for example Locksmithing, took a year or 2 to be as good as someone doing 10+ years. But I know what Im doing when I learn something new, its the same cycle. Not know shit, take in a whole bunch of info, try to sort through the info, ask tons of questions, understand more the more I do it, become an expert in a short amount of time. It is possible to cram years worth of knowledge down to a few years if you are diligent/a zealot about what you are wanting to learn.

Trading is like learning a new language. And i can tell you from experience that learning a new language is difficult and requires time everyday to repeat and learn the basics the best you can.

Most day traders around here fail because of their ego. And while I dont think you should take in the opinions or ideas of everyone, you should realize that there is *possibly* someone out there smarter than you are that knows what they are doing more than you. Thats where being objective comes in. And if you cant be objective with yourself you definitely wont be objective when it comes to the markets. Just like most people are morons, most people like to lie to themselves about their abilities.

Time doesnt guarantee a fuckin thing. You can be an idiot and do something for 10 years and still be a fuckin idiot. Just look at the people who drive everyday. This is a simple task they do day in and day out for decades and still cant get it right.

It is no different when it comes to trading or any other task/occupation. There is just more at stake when trading and it requires less major fuck ups, which can be mitigated to a large extent.

But hey, Ill wait to see another one of these threads next week.
too verbose; no one will ready, 27 spelling mistakes, grade F
 
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