You have to love liberal economics.

[Max E.]

Maduro is no Castro, and the economies are in very different shape. Maduro will be out by 2020....I doubt he lasts next year honestly.

If thats what you believe if would be a good bet to buy those venezuelan bonds, i have no doubt that he will be overthrown at some point cause he has done even worse than castro with a country that shoud be rich, but i dont see it happening any time soon, the reason why communism fails is because the people in control want to hold power, when the government holds the power, the money all goes to the generals, in order to maintain power, and then people starve, the road to hell is paved with good intentions it starts with bread and circuses and ends in disaster every single time, the chinese were smart enough to realise this, bottom line the people in control dont give a shit about the people at the bottom they care about power, so slowly but surely poorly run government businesses keep going to zero, but the people with power live in mansions, he will be there for a while imo.

 

[exGOPer]

China is more capitalist than we are, i have a buddy who went out there, and the government paid for his hotels and drove him around to factories, to encourage him to invest, thats not communism. China has been pushing further and further right for decades and thriving as a result.

Except they do what you have been arguing against from the start of this thread

"
China’s unconditional cash program: Implications for basic income

The People’s Republic of China has created the largest unconditional cash transfer program in the world. It is called dibao, meaning Minimum Livelihood Guarantee. A recently published book is taking a fresh look at how effective dibao is at improving the livelihoods of impoverished Chinese people.

"

http://basicincome.org/news/2017/09/chinas-unconditional-cash-program-implications-basic-income/

Now what, let's see your arguments shift again. So if China can be more capitalist with the very policy you have been arguing against, does that make you a communist for arguing against it?

 

[Max E.]

Except they do what you have been arguing against from the start of this thread

"
China’s unconditional cash program: Implications for basic income

The People’s Republic of China has created the largest unconditional cash transfer program in the world. It is called dibao, meaning Minimum Livelihood Guarantee. A recently published book is taking a fresh look at how effective dibao is at improving the livelihoods of impoverished Chinese people.

"

http://basicincome.org/news/2017/09/chinas-unconditional-cash-program-implications-basic-income/

Now what, let's see your arguments shift again. So if China can be more capitalist with the very policy you have been arguing against, does that make you a communist for arguing against it?

LOL, yeah chinese are getting treated like gold, kind of like how the poverty in Venezuela got eliminated.

When did the standard of living go up in China?

Was it higher twenty years ago or is it higher today?

Would you say that China has went further left in the last twenty years or further Right?

The answers to these questions are crucial to proving your intelligence.

 

[LacesOut]

Sounds like Missisippi and Alabama.

Again, is Forbes a lefty site now?

Irrelevant as usual from the moronic Left. The downfall is here .... and his name is exGroper...and everyone like it.

 

[exGOPer]

LOL, yeah chinese are getting treated like gold, kind of like how the poverty in Venezuela got eliminated.

When did the standard of living go up in China?

Was it higher twenty years ago or is it higher today?

Would you say that China has went further left in the last twenty years or further Right?

The answers to these questions are crucial to proving your intelligence.

Their living conditions went up since they setup a cash program in the 90s, a program that doesn't exist in Venezuela but you insist on bringing that country into every argument of yours.

It's funny how right wingers are claiming China to be one of their own - a centrally planned economy where government controls every move, or are centrally planned economies now conservative? Just because the government prefers neoliberal policies, that doesn't make them right wing.

Why are you so afraid of sticking to your OWN topic? That's what I don't understand. There is nothing wrong in being wrong.

 

[LacesOut]

You cons never debate in good faith - you and your ilk started namecalling when I accurately pointed out that oil prices led to Venezeula's economy collapsing but even after presenting evidence from a right wing site and a scientific paper - you refuse to acknowledge your bullshit and just deflect into more irrelevant babble.

You also refuse to answer a simple question

If you conservative policies are so good for the economy, then why are the most conservative states in the country so fucking poor? Why isn't Kansas the biggest economy in the country? Why are poverty rates so high in every red state?

No answer, just blah blah liberals blah blah communism.

Because it’s hopeless to have a discussion with a mindless drone. You don’t have a clue of what you are cut and pasting.
I can find dozens of articles that show why Venezuela collapsed and oil prices is the pimple on the ass of the elephant.
Why bother?
Fucking Leftists are only focused on the pimple.
Pointless.
Downfall of America.

 

[exGOPer]

Irrelevant as usual from the moronic Left. The downfall is here .... and his name is exGroper...and everyone like it.

Not as irrelevant as Kansas and other inbred sister wives shitholes who export rubes to Trump University.

 

[Max E.]

Their living conditions went up since they setup a cash program in the 90s, a program that doesn't exist in Venezuela but you insist on bringing that country into every argument of yours.

It's funny how right wingers are claiming China to be one of their own - a communist planned central economy, or are centrally planned economies now conservative?

Why are you so afraid of sticking to your OWN topic? That's what I don't understand. There is nothing wrong in being wrong.

LOL, yeah it was when China pushed further left that they thrived..... this is why its pointless talking to people like you all the BRIC countries, Brazil, Russia India, China, all moved towards capitalism, standard of living has drastically went up but yeah keep telling yourself its a leftword push doing it lol.

 

[exGOPer]

Because it’s hopeless to have a discussion with a mindless drone. You don’t have a clue of what you are cut and pasting.
I can find dozens of articles that show why Venezuela collapsed and oil prices is the pimple on the ass of the elephant.
Why bother?
Fucking Leftists are only focused on the pimple.
Pointless.
Downfall of America.

I didn't cut and paste anything - I made an argument and when philistines as usual displayed their colossal ignorance, I cited my sources for reaching the aforesaid conclusions.

If you can find dozens of articles proving something else, I won't ignore that as a point - I however won't call you ignorant and insult you for doing it.

Fucking inbred Cons can't take care of their own meth infested shitholes, they will never even talk about European lefty countries, just fear mongering about some Latin shithole is all they can do to feel good about their own filth.

 

[exGOPer]

LOL, yeah it was when China pushed further left that they thrived..... this is why its pointless talking to people like you all the BRIC countries, Brazil, Russia India, China, all moved towards capitalism, standard of living has drastically went up but yeah keep telling yourself its a leftword push doing it lol.

And? You Cons own capitalism now? You do know that what those countries did is called 'liberalization' right? You do understand there is a difference between communism and liberalism right? Maybe not, given your intellectual display on this thread.