You Can't Trade Without A College Degree!!

[Reaver]

Quote from giles117:

Desire trumps discipline if you believe in execution. I went to college to make my FAMILY happy. I left because I wasnt happy. I had a lousy 3.5 because I was so unhappy.

My desire was for what I do today. Music and trading.

2 years after I walked away from college I started trading. I paid my way through college with my Music career.

Dont think it's all about Discipline. DESIRE is a major issue. SOme people do what they do because of others expectations and not their own personal desire.

Most people dont figure out WHO they are until they are 27 or 28. MOST, not ALL!!!!!

Oddly enough I knew what I wanted to do when I was a teenager, but I allowed my Pastor and my Parents to convince me that I was TOO SMART to do what I wanted to do and that I should get a degree. I bought into that BS till I realized I was unhappy chasing their opinions for me.

Giles,

You are correct. Many people are so wrapped up and brainwashed by everything they have no idea what that statement means. They can't possibly understand the concept of being UNHAPPY in going to college or the desire to strike out on your own.

They have been bagged and tagged by society.

You mention music being a passion....I'd say it's the same artistic mindset that makes you a good musician that makes you want to be your own person no matter what the risk.

I've always been artistic as well in conventional art and music, and I have noticed other artistic people that tend to have the same mentality.

Not trying to sound crazy or anything, but I'd go out on a limb and say Icarus has some experience in some form of art as well that he excels at.

Willing to put money on it.

Some people are simply unable to understand what makes someone want to be their own person no matter what it takes.

I remember something from an Alice In Chains song, Nutshell...if I can't be my own I'd feel better dead.

Not trying to be dramatic, but it's true. It is a mindset that some of us have.

The day I got my DD214 from the military I knew I wasn't cut out to work for civilians for one day longer than was necessary to get my own show on the road.

 

[scriabinop23]

Quote from Icarus5:

Not worth the effort.

Takes too long, I'm doing other things now, it's all been said before, and most importantly of all:

My words don't have to convince the ones with the knowledge and experience in life to know what I'm talking about, they already know.

And no matter what I say, I cannot convince the others.

Get it?

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teach me I don't already know. I'm open.

 

[Icarus5]

Quote from TudorJones:

I think we proved that in this day and age, college degree is useless for success in trading.

LOL, thanks for the support TJ.

Hey if they want to go to college, I say let'em.

Just remember, they're being trained to be tools, not traders.

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[scriabinop23]

Quote from Icarus5:

LOL, thanks for the support TJ.

Hey if they want to go to college, I say let'em.

Just remember, they're being trained to be tools, not traders.

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True. College doesn't make a trader, but it makes a trader more easily employable to trade real $$. Am I wrong?

 

[Reaver]

Quote from Icarus5:

LOL, thanks for the support TJ.

Hey if they want to go to college, I say let'em.

Just remember, they're being trained to be tools, not traders.

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Exactly, I am not knocking college, just saying it ain't the end all be all.

You'll never learn to outthink general society when you are being taught the same thing as everyone else in the exact same fashion.

It's a simple concept.

College grads who succeed as real traders probably already had it in them with or without college.

 

[timbo]

Quote from TudorJones:

I think we proved that in this day and age, college degree is useless for success in trading.

I beg to differ. It's useless to reinvent the wheel.

 

[Reaver]

Quote from Icarus5:

Not worth the effort.

Takes too long, I'm doing other things now, it's all been said before, and most importantly of all:

My words don't have to convince the ones with the knowledge and experience in life to know what I'm talking about, they already know.

And no matter what I say, I cannot convince the others.

Get it?

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Good point. Like I was saying to Giles, those who don't know will never understand unless they figure it out of their own accord.

 

[Reaver]

Quote from scriabinop23:

True. College doesn't make a trader, but it makes a trader more easily employable to trade real $$. Am I wrong?

Depends on if you want to work FOR SOMEONE ELSE trading SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY or not.

If you want to be employed as a trader for someone else, then yes, it probably wouldn't hurt....

But then again, if you show a kick ass track record, I think your degree would be the least important factor in someone giving you money to trade.

 

[giles117]

I have one question with regards to this.

Is education something you get in college or is it something you pursue in life....

My Kids are encouraged to achieve education regardless. They know they can go to college and it's paid for. They also know they don't have to if they dont want to.

I have an aspiring Chef, writer, Bass & Lead guitar player. And thats just one of them. I cant imagine people ever stopping eating. So cooks wont be obsolete anytime soon. LOL...

I have a 14 year old trader in waiting. We have a deal. If He hustles and earns 3K I'll match it and open him a trading account. He has his goal for next summer. They, together, have already run 2 businesses when they were 3, 5, 8, 10, 12 and 13.

If you TRAIN them to be ambitious, they will.

This verse applies: Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

So if your example is a slackers example, they will be slackers. Gnome... You'll raise Gnomes. and so on..

Quote from nutmeg:

One point I hadn't seen mentioned here re degree. If you don't have a degree it is highly likely your kids won't value the degree either. Your self employed business may become obsolete or your children may not be interested. They may not have your drive or ambition. How will you stress the importance of a degree to your children?

 

[Icarus5]

Quote from scriabinop23:

teach me I don't already know. I'm open.

Every post on this thread by every hungry trader is a lesson.

We never ask anyone to teach us, we work like a dog to figure it out for ourselves and look for traders who have similar experiences to confirm what we already know.

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