You Can't Trade Without A College Degree!!

[timbo]

Shit! This thread will never reach convergence.

 

[scriabinop23]

Quote from giles117:

Desire trumps discipline if you believe in execution. I went to college to make my FAMILY happy. I left because I wasnt happy. I had a lousy 3.5 because I was so unhappy.

My desire was for what I do today. Music and trading.

2 years after I walked away from college I started trading. I paid my way through college with my Music career.

Dont think it's all about Discipline. DESIRE is a major issue. SOme people do what they do because of others expectations and not their own personal desire.

Most people dont figure out WHO they are until they are 27 or 28. MOST, not ALL!!!!!

Its all how you view the function of college. If you are going to please others, its the wrong reason.

desire creates discipline.

 

[Reaver]

Quote from Icarus5:

Ah, another hater in the fold?

Hmm, that's the downside of talking about trading to those who can't, the just get angrier and angrier as they become faced with their deficiencies.

Sad ,

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Yep. lol

 

[Reaver]

Quote from scriabinop23:

hahah.. actually, i admit I may be mistaken. I got this crazy idea from following the original bullsnbearz advertising threads, and it seemed Jay (bullsnbearsz) went through a rapid phase of creating multiple IDs to contribute to his discussions and back them up. Reaver was amongst top aliases. Now maybe I misread something and just made a flawed assumption...

Regardless, a lot of self congratulatory talk ... with so much, I couldn't help but conclude my assumption was correct. Well then I stand corrected.

And on the original topic: unless you are a lucky SOB (with a dream of a trading system, or just had a stroke of luck in picking chains of winners), and additionally are properly capitalized to trade, you'll make a lot more $$ with a degree / climbing up the corporate ladder than you will trading.

If you don't have the discipline to complete college, the odds are you don't have the discipline to properly execute a trading system over years. The point has been well made that connections formed are more worthwhile than content learned for the vast majority of majors. Especially nontechnical majors (show me how many EEs or physicians exist without college degrees).


And of course there's an exception to every point I just stated; those are few and far between.

I have a hard time believing anyone who can actually conceive of, program/backtest a quantitative trading system *that works* has any interest in spending energy wondering or supporting the argument that a college education is unnecessary.

Because of course its not, but if you are pursuing $$$ and employment (ie work with others), its much easier by having it.

Hell no man I've been Reaver for a lot longer than BnB has been around. lol

I went after him and Timmay with a vengeance.

He's a piece of shit psychopath.

 

[Icarus5]

Quote from scriabinop23:

brilliant comeback...

Not worth the effort.

Takes too long, I'm doing other things now, it's all been said before, and most importantly of all:

My words don't have to convince the ones with the knowledge and experience in life to know what I'm talking about, they already know.

And no matter what I say, I cannot convince the others.

Get it?

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[Reaver]

Quote from giles117:

Desire trumps discipline if you believe in execution. I went to college to make my FAMILY happy. I left because I wasnt happy. I had a lousy 3.5 because I was so unhappy.

My desire was for what I do today. Music and trading.

2 years after I walked away from college I started trading. I paid my way through college with my Music career.

Dont think it's all about Discipline. DESIRE is a major issue. SOme people do what they do because of others expectations and not their own personal desire.

Most people dont figure out WHO they are until they are 27 or 28. MOST, not ALL!!!!!

Oddly enough I knew what I wanted to do when I was a teenager, but I allowed my Pastor and my Parents to convince me that I was TOO SMART to do what I wanted to do and that I should get a degree. I bought into that BS till I realized I was unhappy chasing their opinions for me.

Giles,

You are correct. Many people are so wrapped up and brainwashed by everything they have no idea what that statement means. They can't possible understand the possibility of being UNHAPPY in going to college or the desire to strike out on your own.

You mention music being a passion....I'd say it's the same artistic mindset that makes you a good musician that makes you want to be your own person no matter what the risk.

I've always been artistic as well in conventional art and music, and I have noticed other artistic people that tend to have the same mentality.

Not trying to sound crazy or anything, but I'd go out on a limb and say Icarus has some experience in some form of art as well that he excels at.

Willing to put money on it.

Some people are simply unable to understand what makes someone want to be their own person no matter what it takes.

I remember something Layne Staley said a whole back in one of AIC's songs....if I can't be my own I'd feel better dead.

Not trying to be dramatic, but it's true. It is a mindset that some of us have.

The day I got my DD214 from the military I knew I wasn't cut out to work for civilians for one day longer than was necessary to get my own show on the road.

 

[giles117]

Quote from scriabinop23:

Its all how you view the function of college. If you are going to please others, its the wrong reason.

desire creates discipline.

2 opinions. diverging... Desire vs discipline....

Thanks for proving my point. If you dont have the desire to complete college, you wont...

Desire, however does not create discipline.

 

[scriabinop23]

Quote from Reaver:

Hell no man I've been Reaver for a lot longer than BnB has been around. lol

I went after him and Timmay with a vengeance.

He's a piece of shit psychopath.

i just reread some of those threads because I admit I may have been mistaken... When scanning those 100 page threads its easy to mix frequent posters with psychopaths (i probably misinterpreted some sarcasm of yours .. or something like that) ... my bad.

 

[TudorJones]

Quote from timbo:

Shit! This thread will never reach convergence.

I think we proved that in this day and age, college degree is useless for success in trading.

 

[Reaver]

Quote from scriabinop23:

i just reread some of those threads because I admit I may have been mistaken... When scanning those 100 page threads its easy to mix frequent posters with psychopaths (i probably misinterpreted some sarcasm of yours .. or something like that) ... my bad.

Hey no problem man, I am with you on that part. heh heh heh

I can't stand morons like BnB, Timmay, Trading Zoo, etc.