You can not call Bush a terrorist without saying the same about the troops!

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I completely agree with this. The only people that Bush has terrorized are the Americans, as the border with Mexico should have been closed on 9-12-01, yet today it still remains virtually open with 11K illegal aliens entering illegally EVERY NIGHT. Far more people have murdered by illegal aliens (Bush's "good hearted folks") in this country with the US shithead govts tacit approval than have been killed in this so called war on terror by Iraqis insurgents, jihadists, terrorists, whatever :mad:
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Hate to disagree here, but the guys I work with say the border is MUCH harder to cross now than it was before 9/11.

However, you are correct with the generalization that it is still WAY too easy to get into the US.....
 
Hate to disagree here, but the guys I work with say the border is MUCH harder to cross now than it was before 9/11.

Despite dumbass Bush though. Remember him calling Minutemen vigilantes?Traitor!
 
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BTW, no place in here do I say that there is no place for a debate on the war, about should we stay or go. That's not my stand. Only that those who resort to calling President Bush and those around him terrorists are saying the same thing about the troops they claim to care so much about.
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There's a bumper sticker out now: "War is terrorism".

Do you disagree?

War is psychosis. Who signs up to follow the orders of the psychotic-in-chief?

What if war broke out and no one showed up?

If you call it a "job" you can make it socially acceptable.

Never is attack ever justified.

So it must be some other kind of "job".

Self defense is one thing...but it is impossible to prepare for and prevent war.

Notwithstanding, in or out of uniform, psychosis prevails in this world.

So this is to be forgiven along with everything else that is insane.

It need not lessen your joy.

Jesus
 
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It was very clearly established after WW2 that soldiers had both a moral and a LEGAL obligation and DUTY to refuse to carry out illegal orders. If they did carry them out and transmit them, they become a part of the problem and just as guilty as those issueing the order. You can not have it both ways. If Bush is a terrorists, so are all of the men and woman who are out there busting their asses so that you can, under the cover of the freedom they die to assure you of having, call them terrible names and insult them, their families and YOUR COUNTRY.
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By this definition you implicate the troops. Not a single order to attack is justified.

This is not how freedom is achieved. You have no idea what freedom means.

Troops are idols set up to protect those who use their mouths to attack... and expect reprisal in return.

Every idol will fail you in the end. They will fall one by one.

Who volunteers to be a pawn on a chessboard?

The first one who attempted to drive a nail in my hands dropped it, stood up, and walked away from the Roman Legion forever.

The war mongers among us have need for troops, and have need they be perceived as sane, normal and natural.

Aha. Troops are those who signed up for a paycheck.

All paychecks are idols. They are a defense against the truth. They will fall one by one.

They are what they seek.

They teach us something about fear. They are terrified of economic "reality". So terror they must teach.

You are what you teach.

Jesus
 
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TheToo much of the media, celebrities and the wacko left which seems to control the democrat party have let their hatred of Bush push them over the edge however.
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The left has always been crazy in the first place. Nutjobs at a minimum. I don't know how they live with themselves.
 
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I'm not talking about what was (2003), I'm talking now.
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The war was started with false information, intentional or otherwise. (There have been books written about intent by relative insiders, so I don't need to delve into that matter.) Therefore, you cannot blame the troops at that time. Further, as Colin Powell told Bush, when he was trying to dissuade him from attacking Iraq, "You break it, you buy it." The troops now are trying to clean up the mess that the invading forces created. You can't blame those troops either. However, someone is to blame. Use your imagination.
 
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However, someone is to blame. Use your imagination.
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Blame both the Repubs and the Dems since they both voted for it.

Blame the Dems since they just voted to give more $$$ to keep it going.

Dems sure don't have any backbone do they?
 
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