rip...........also, most stops are 5 to 7 points...........you can lose more trading 5 min charts and shorter although they can help you..........I prefer the 15 min chart with 5 for early look........but 15 must show me the pictures........mhase's trade was great, but overnight I don't like...I was thinking when 30 was there for him, I hope he bails or exits with 1/2 contracts and moves to breakeven........or move remaining 3 stops to no risk..that is what hurt volente at first and the mega rich boss i had 5 years ago who introduced me to this stuff.......would not move stop....especially to breakeven........ ........I prefer to be in tighter control of trades.........I don't need the stress.......a good system takes a lot of stress off...........get down to a good system and a market that suits you and intensify the studies..........later expand your trading to whatever..........at first intensify...........robust system that I have looks the same on weekly on down.......that is what took the 5 years and 10,000 hours.........