Yet again obama proves he is either delusional or a pathological liar.
- Thread starter Max E.
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Yup. He missed a chance to score points there.
So equality is now "stupid crap." Whatever happened to the dem party? The ones who protested government intrusion? The ones who demanded equal justice for all? Now it seems they're all for double standards, favortism, a government so intrusive and oppressive even Orwell would be saying, no way could that happen.
I'd bet my last dollar that if the House agreed to a clean bill that Obama & Reid would then refuse to have any discussions on changes to Obamacare.
What they should do is make it optional in 2014 since that's basically what it is anyway in in its current form. If optional see how many people sign up. We know plenty of young folks will not sign up. And the laughable $95 is a joke. If they go after those who don't sign up it will cost a hell of a lot more than $95 in expense to try to run down all these people. And we'll still have those who don't qualify for Medicaid caught in the middle since they wouldn't qualify for the subsidies, so they, young uninsured people and illegals will continue to pile into the ER for 'free' treatment that we end up paying for via yet higher premiums.
So why not go the optional route ... see how many sign up ... offer these subsidies and see how much red ink it produces. Then I believe Republicans could go for the jugular and have definitive evidence and hard cost data to show how badly this thing will be.
It does seem to me that the republicans are so far out on the limb now, that they have to get some sort of concession or else they look like total fools. Of course, that is exactly how Obama and Reid want them to look, but the republicans have considerable leverage.
All this talk of no negotiating is hopefully just posturing, but with these idiots who knows.
The secret of successful negotiating is to find a way for the other party to come away with something without giving up stuff you need. Obama is loath to give up the one achievement of his administration. Plus he fears setting a precedent, where everything is open to budget hostage-taking. The republicans surely cannot just say "nevermind" and fold. So we have the most difficult negotiating environment, ie one side is determined to stand on principle and the other is determined to win something.
I think a fair compromise would be to delay Obamacare until after the next election in exchange for a republican promise to raise the debt ceiling annually as needed. This is not an ideal way to conduct business, but Obamacare was a sweeping change enacted on a party line vote. It's not like it was the result of some universal consensus. The many waivers, etc already given have undermined its legitimacy as well.
All this talk of no negotiating is hopefully just posturing, but with these idiots who knows.
The secret of successful negotiating is to find a way for the other party to come away with something without giving up stuff you need. Obama is loath to give up the one achievement of his administration. Plus he fears setting a precedent, where everything is open to budget hostage-taking. The republicans surely cannot just say "nevermind" and fold. So we have the most difficult negotiating environment, ie one side is determined to stand on principle and the other is determined to win something.
I think a fair compromise would be to delay Obamacare until after the next election in exchange for a republican promise to raise the debt ceiling annually as needed. This is not an ideal way to conduct business, but Obamacare was a sweeping change enacted on a party line vote. It's not like it was the result of some universal consensus. The many waivers, etc already given have undermined its legitimacy as well.
The Tea Party types are easy targets, but those of us who are truly unbiased see Dirty Harry and Nancy the Nut as equal partners in this fiasco. It comes as no surprise that one extremist element would not play well with the other, especially with no adult supervision at the top.
My brother just go a call from 1-800-318-2596 and claimed it was a call from Obamacare.
I googled the number and yes, it links to:
https://www.healthcare.gov/
And if you look at the number ....
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/n...-fuckyo-to-reach-obamacares-national-hotline/
I googled the number and yes, it links to:
https://www.healthcare.gov/
And if you look at the number ....
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/n...-fuckyo-to-reach-obamacares-national-hotline/