Yemen's President Saleh to be tried for crimes aginst humanity. US, Saudis say no.

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Presently US has 800 military bases around the world and killed 1 million people directly and indirectly in Middle East alone in the last 10 years.
By indirect killing you mean sectarian and tribal violence, muslims murdering muslims, right?
 
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U.S. declining as a moral authority.......
Option 1: Provide the dictator with security guarantees, safe passage out of the country and immunity from prosecution, this will immediately stop the bloodshed and let the democratic movement win (the Yemeni scenario)

Option 2: Don't provide the dictator with security guarantees and immunity which will assure that the civil war will continue for a very long time and/or the pro-democracy movement will be destroyed (The Libyan scenario)

Are you absolutely positive that the second scenario is the smart and moral one?
 
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US destabilized the entire region, turned population into criminals because their society collapsed.

Christians in Iraq for example never had a problem under Saddam, now they are being attacked.

This is all the fault of war, and US brought the war. USA didn't bring peace, US brought war.

Clear enough for you
Oh I see. Saddam good, America bad. Your views are certainly crystal clear. Muslims murdering muslims in Iraq - bad america, muslims murdering christians in Iraq - bad America, muslims murdering hundreds of thousands in Sudan - bad america, muslims murdering hindus in India, russians in Russia, spanish in Spain, british in the UK, australians in Bali, jews in Haifa - bad America.

America siding with Mubarak - bad america, america siding with Libyan rebels - bad america, America bombing Libya - bad america, America finding a peaceful solution in Yemen - bad america.

LOL, America just can't win, can do no right. The only good news for America is that no one, not a single person on the planet gives a damn about the idiotic views of fringe cretins and pathetic losers like you.
 
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You are frustrated because you are losing the argument. House based on lies can not stand very long
Here is America in all its glory and compare that to how many people Saddam killed in his career



Korean War

Vietnam War (after Gulf of Tonkin spin, today proven to be propaganda)

Bay of Pigs Invasion

Grenada

US Invasion of Panama

Desert Storm to help Kuwait after US told Saddam don't worry about us, we still like you, you killed Iranians for us

Iraq Invasion, based on lies of WMDs

Intervention in Bosnia and Herzegovina

Afghanistan invasion because Taliban wanted their cut for oil pipeline because it is their country.

War in Kosovo, breaking apart a foreign country cause US needed a new military base there.

Future invasion of Pakistan and Iran possible



US of A case closed :cool:
And what exactly does it have to do with the fact that its muslims killing muslims (and everyone else) in Iraq and elsewhere? Next time you post - try to stay on topic if you possibly can, it will strengthen your argument and prevent you from looking like an ignorant rambling idiot throwing up unrelated shit and seeing what sticks.
 
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And where are the WMDs ??? Turns out Iraq didn't have them. Any Questions??
Questions about what? Did I say anything in support of the war in Iraq? I did not. All I said was that out of 1 million people who died in the Middle East in the last 10 years, 950,000 were muslims murdering muslims (and christians). Do you have any questions, or nothing but non sequitur?

PS war porn is boring and is usually posted by someone when he has no real arguments. Oh boy, you still have a trillion things to learn before you can post on a grown-up forum.

PS2 the war in Iraq was wrong...muslims are murdering muslims and christians in Iraq (and elsewhere int the world)...you are a pathetic moron. These things are not mutually exclusive, you know.
 
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1945

End of WW2

US along with other allies was morally superior, they helped defeat evil.

What a great time to be American.

November 22, 1963 John F. Kennedy was assassinated
Who did it? Pick between CIA, Federal Reserve, Mafia, Corporations

1964 Gulf of Tonkin spin given to population

US moral superiority lasted 20 years.

Presently US has 800 military bases around the world and killed 1 million people directly and indirectly in Middle East alone in the last 10 years.

Case Closed on US of A

History is always written by the victor. The winner is the force of good and the loser is the force of evil. Always.
 
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Back to the muslims killing muslims as you say.

There was no muslims killing muslims in Iraq prior to US bringing war and collapse of society
LOL, we can certainly agree that muslims (and especially arabs) need a strong-armed dictator to behave. Uneducated, indoctrinated, fanatical and backward, the only thing they truly understand is brutal force. The US and other western armies with their liberal civilized humane policies and practices are certainly no match to their 7th century savagery.

So yeah, the invasion of Iraq was totally wrong but it's not an excuse, the muslims are still medieval savages, they are still the ones who kill muslims and christians in Iraq, hindus in India, russians in Russia, Brits in London, Spaniards in Madrid, jews in Tel Aviv, Australians in Bali. They are still responsible for the Darfur genocide, honor killings, beheadings, executions, persecutions, tortures, kidnappings...

PS Oh and of course the life under Saddam and Taliban was so wonderful and peaceful. LOL
 
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HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS DEATHS CHART YOU EVIL PIECE OF DUNG

Iraq+and+Afghanistan+casualties.jpg


NOTICE THE YEARS, HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE YEARS IF WARS HAVE NO EFFECT, how come muslims are not killing muslims in 2001 if they are savages who kill anyway
As I said in my previous post, muslims need a dictatorship and a brutal ruthless dictator in order to behave. The moment they are free their real medieval savage nature comes out and they go on a murdering rampage.
 
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LOL The wars are not even finished you door knob

You think US brought freedom and peace, and so Muslims don't know what to do with it.

LOL

THE WARS ARE STILL RAGING YOU NITWIT

US soldiers are dying every 2nd week

Why are they dying??

What are they doing there, why aren't they home.
non sequitur again? Why am I not surprised? You ran out of arguments the moment I pointed out that 95% of 1 million people murdered in the middle east in the last 10 years have been murdered by muslims. As soon as they were ridden of their despotic dictator they (instead of building a prosperous democratic society) went on a murdering rampage, killing mostly each other. And this is an undeniable fact my illiterate delusional friend.
 
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