Yellen: $20 trillion national debt 'should keep people awake at night'...what does she know....

You people do understand that the Fed chair has absolutely nothing to do with the debt ceiling or the level of spending authorized by congress and approved by the President that generates the national debt? And that the debt ceiling has nothing to do with anything about paying the debts the country already incurred. Your doing the equivalent of saying one should stop paying their credit card bills because their balances are too high, even though they have the full ability to do so, rather than either getting a job that earns more or spending less or both.

If you're going to rant, at least get a clue about wtf you're talking about, good grief!


There is a definite link between the fed and debt ceiling.... especially when interest rates are involved...case and point the reason for such low historical rates is because a nation that is $20 trillion in the hole has fundamental constraints that can literally be turned upside down if rates were to rise ....a rise in interest rates can increase future deficits and the level of national debt as intersest payments become due....do you know how much higher the yearly deficits will be moving forward with a $20 trillion debt ...increased deficits caused by increase in fed funds rate... why do you think the fed keeps lying about rate hikes and how they keep saying they will be at his rate by this point in time but keep pulling back those "promises" they are trying to buy more time... probably hoping for stronger gdp growth to reduce the debt to ratio....we are due for a rate hike in December and 4 more next year.....let's see how truthful these hikes are. ..oh wait Powell is going to be next fed chairman...that means will be lucky to see one or two.....
 
There is a definite link between the fed and debt ceiling.... especially when interest rates are involved...case and point the reason for such low historical rates is because a nation that is $20 trillion in the hole has fundamental constraints that can literally be turned upside down if rates were to rise ....a rise in interest rates can increase future deficits and the level of national debt as intersest payments become due....do you know how much higher the yearly deficits will be moving forward with a $20 trillion debt ...increased deficits caused by increase in fed funds rate... why do you think the fed keeps lying about rate hikes and how they keep saying they will be at his rate by this point in time but keep pulling back those "promises" they are trying to buy more time... probably hoping for stronger gdp growth to reduce the debt to ratio....we are due for a rate hike in December and 4 more next year.....let's see how truthful these hikes are. ..oh wait Powell is going to be next fed chairman...that means will be lucky to see one or two.....
This isn't a very coherent thought. Like I quite clearly indicated in my example, you have your causality completely mixed up. Do you think it is Capital One's fault that I'm in debt because they offered me low credit card rates and I subsequently ran up credit card debt in the example I gave? Do you think I should just arbitrarily stop making my credit card payments even though I can easily afford them because I think my debt is too high? You're advocating for both those positions, and both are clearly nonsense.
 
I've been considering looking for greener pastures in Canada, Europe, Asia, and South America. I just can't imagine digging ourselves out of this one. But spending is at an all time high, returns are as well, so I'll just keep making lemonade.
 
I've been considering looking for greener pastures in Canada, Europe, Asia, and South America. I just can't imagine digging ourselves out of this one. But spending is at an all time high, returns are as well, so I'll just keep making lemonade.
I think it's somewhat of an illusion that one of those places could provide returns or even safety if you believe the U.S. is on some kind of debt precipice. The U.S. economy is a big enough part of the world economy that, as they say, when the U.S. coughs the rest of the world catches a cold. I'd say keeping on with the lemonade making with maybe some downside puts is a pretty good strategy.
 
Come on guys , US monetary and fiscal policy is no more complicated than Sigs Capital One card. Capital One is the fed and Sig is congress . Right?
 
Nearly everything is a possibility, it's a possibility Trump will nuke Kansas but highly unlikely so not worth spilling ink over. That has nothing to do with if the fed chair is responsible for the spending that past and current Congress' authorized and Presidents signed which caused the current debt, and even less to do with the debt ceiling which is an exercise in complete idiocy.

Basic civics lesson folks.

That’s clearly formal education.
Sig, we are going to have fun.

The board members only answer to the primary dealers. Don’t make it seem it’s any different than that.
Ping to your pong.
 
That’s clearly formal education.
Sig, we are going to have fun.

The board members only answer to the primary dealers. Don’t make it seem it’s any different than that.
Ping to your pong.
That's a nice conspiracy theory you've got yourself there. You could put the personal experience you have with the Fed on the head of a pin, don't even start with that "formal education" bullshit. Someone with formal education, experience, and who's had intelligent conversations with people who actually work at the Fed trump tinfoil hatter's with none of the above any day my friend. I realized long ago that you can't have an intelligent conversation with a paranoid, so good luck with all that. Audit the Fed!
 
That's a nice conspiracy theory you've got yourself there. You could put the personal experience you have with the Fed on the head of a pin, don't even start with that "formal education" bullshit. Someone with formal education, experience, and who's had intelligent conversations with people who actually work at the Fed trump tinfoil hatter's with none of the above any day my friend. I realized long ago that you can't have an intelligent conversation with a paranoid, so good luck with all that. Audit the Fed!

Certainly, but you still clearly don’t know whom you are speaking too.

I clearly have both, yet you classify me as a punter. This isn’t a box, you aren’t the only one who has gone to a tier 1.

Please, check yourself.
 
So how does a nation go about ending this death spiral? Me thinks going back to a gold/silver/platinum standard (even if that means gold at $10,000/ounce), do away with a central bank, and do away with fractional reserve banking, to be replaced by fee banking.
 
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