Yawn....... Israel attacked by Hamas
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Strictly speaking, the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing was an act of proxy warfare, which the United States has also employed, very liberally, throughout its history.
The attack involved a local force and non-state actors, Hezbollah with support from Iran, who targeted military personnel. While suicide bombing is often associated with terrorism, this leads to differing interpretations; primarily because we tend to label our adversaries' tactics as distinct from our own.
Since the French operation and U.S. barracks were clearly military targets, the bombing was technically an act of asymmetric or proxy warfare. The use of unconventional tactics by non-state actors blurs the line between terrorism and military action, but the primary objective was to strike a military force, not civilians.
However, the 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing in Beirut is more complicated but easy to argue an act of war because the embassy was dual use. While an embassy is not a military target, the U.S. embassy in Beirut at the time housed a significant number of military and intelligence personnel involved in coordinating U.S. operations in Lebanon. This would have led attackers to view the embassy as a strategic target, albeit not a strictly military one.
And in this case, it worked. Along with the collapse of the Lebanese military, the U.S. and French forces ultimately withdrew from Lebanon as a result.
A mistake in hindsight.
The attack involved a local force and non-state actors, Hezbollah with support from Iran, who targeted military personnel. While suicide bombing is often associated with terrorism, this leads to differing interpretations; primarily because we tend to label our adversaries' tactics as distinct from our own.
Since the French operation and U.S. barracks were clearly military targets, the bombing was technically an act of asymmetric or proxy warfare. The use of unconventional tactics by non-state actors blurs the line between terrorism and military action, but the primary objective was to strike a military force, not civilians.
However, the 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing in Beirut is more complicated but easy to argue an act of war because the embassy was dual use. While an embassy is not a military target, the U.S. embassy in Beirut at the time housed a significant number of military and intelligence personnel involved in coordinating U.S. operations in Lebanon. This would have led attackers to view the embassy as a strategic target, albeit not a strictly military one.
And in this case, it worked. Along with the collapse of the Lebanese military, the U.S. and French forces ultimately withdrew from Lebanon as a result.
A mistake in hindsight.
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Americans also remember the USS Liberty and the Dancing Israeli's on 9/11.
Should add those to your list of grievances.
In hindsight...
Reagan’s decision to pull out allowed groups like Hezbollah and their backers in Iran to claim victory. The withdrawal showed that western forces could be deterred by violent attacks, setting a dangerous precedent for the future. Conservatives shown something works have this talent for just doing the same thing at industrial scale.
Be very careful when you do something innovative to conservatives as they are want to throw it back, ad nauseum. The pagers thing, it's likely to have unpredictable consequences.
The lack of resolve emboldened non-state actors across the Middle East, contributing to the rise of real terrorism in the decades to come.
While there were real political and humanitarian reasons for withdrawal, the long-term strategic consequences of leaving Lebanon were very significant. The retreat reinforced the perception that western powers would not commit to extended military engagements in the Middle East if faced with asymmetric threats. This persisted in subsequent U.S. interventions, such as in Iraq and Afghanistan at great cost.
Reagan’s decision to pull out allowed groups like Hezbollah and their backers in Iran to claim victory. The withdrawal showed that western forces could be deterred by violent attacks, setting a dangerous precedent for the future. Conservatives shown something works have this talent for just doing the same thing at industrial scale.
Be very careful when you do something innovative to conservatives as they are want to throw it back, ad nauseum. The pagers thing, it's likely to have unpredictable consequences.
The lack of resolve emboldened non-state actors across the Middle East, contributing to the rise of real terrorism in the decades to come.
While there were real political and humanitarian reasons for withdrawal, the long-term strategic consequences of leaving Lebanon were very significant. The retreat reinforced the perception that western powers would not commit to extended military engagements in the Middle East if faced with asymmetric threats. This persisted in subsequent U.S. interventions, such as in Iraq and Afghanistan at great cost.
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Same old antisemitic bullshiat about 9/11 recycled over and over again. It's getting old... and it's all nonsense.
Pic Allegedly Showing '5 Dancing Israelis' on 9/11 Is AI-Generated Fake
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/five-dancing-israelis-picture/
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what about explosive golf balls?
The Dancing Israeli's were interviewed on television.
Snopes calls it an AI fake? Here's Snopes
