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XTHN, PEIX Ethanol
- Thread starter Gwhiz
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Quote from Hydroblunt:
Most of these companies are just milking the alternative energy field. It's tough to separate the real companies from the bullshitters. Either way, valuations are extreme, just look at ESLR and SPWR.
Noone mentioned MAG, best inverters on the market.
BTW, ethanol is a scam, it is so heavily subisidized by the government that it makes no financial sense. The taxpayers are footing the bill while the big argricultural pigs get rich from it. Heavy environmental concerns from it also since the already depleted soil only gets worse.
Cellulose Ethanol doesn't have that problem because it comes from organic waste like bark. We have enough waste to replace 25% of all gasoline used. Another 30% or so and we take big terrorist foriegn oil out of the picture entirely. The extra 30% can come from switchgrass grown in non-farmable areas, since it doesn't need much water or anything. It is basically a weed that is collected like mowing the grass.
There's other alternatives that are much better than this, for example ALTI & EEEI working on the next generation battery. Plug in hybrids or PEV's can wipe out oil forever by themselves with current technology.
I would like to see PEIX get into cellulose ethanol much more than they are, this would have more promise.
Quote from MRWSM:
Cellulose Ethanol doesn't have that problem because it comes from organic waste like bark. We have enough waste to replace 25% of all gasoline used. Another 30% or so and we take big terrorist foriegn oil out of the picture entirely. The extra 30% can come from switchgrass grown in non-farmable areas, since it doesn't need much water or anything. It is basically a weed that is collected like mowing the grass.
There's other alternatives that are much better than this, for example ALTI & EEEI working on the next generation battery. Plug in hybrids or PEV's can wipe out oil forever by themselves with current technology.
I would like to see PEIX get into cellulose ethanol much more than they are, this would have more promise.
Ethanol from organic waste does make sense but unfortunately the Bush ethanol trains aims for corn & wheat ethanol specially grown by big agricultural corporates. Biomass and organic waste ethanol are much better solutions.
Still, US and some states have been making some serious progress in alternative energy through solar. US is not messing around, is almost like an energy revolution. Third in Solar/PV behind Japan and Germany.
As for cars, electric vechiles beat any other version hands down. The technology has been around for a while and the statement that they are too weak is a complete myth. Fastest car on the face of the planet is electric.