XP Pro or Windows 7 ?

Quote from Traveler:Vmware Fusion for Mac. Apparently works with Win 7/8. I'm happy with XP but the VM keeps breaking the OEM windows licensing whenever I change something, so I'm shopping for a full retail OS pkg.
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You are going to run into that no matter what. The ONLY way around that is volume licensing where you point the OS/each instance of XP/7/8 to a server with the key.

If not the normal OEM will break the license every time you make a change.

EDIT: To be more specific, I haven't read the specific license agreements at all however the retail or OEM licenses of Windows are not intended to be hosted as virtual machines, they are all intended to reside on "bare metal" versus be a virtual instance.

I have no idea if that applies to things like Fusion or Player or other things like Virtual box, etc. but in general, you'll keep blowing up the key every time you make a change because the OS/key/activation wasn't intended to be run as a VM.
 
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I used W2K for years until I started to use NinjaTrader and had to change to XP
my current computer was purchased in May 09

a lot of people seem to think NEW = BETTER , and that's just not the case —
'don't fix it if it ain't broke' comes to mind
redesigns don't always offer improvement, going from MetaTrader 3 to 4 was an
improvement, but MT5 was a failure in terms of it not being adopted by traders
and Microsoft's certainly had its failures including OSs
the other matter is does a new OS require new hardware/components or upgrading
the programs used, which may also mean different but not better

I've not found W2K or XP to be 'unreliable' in any way, no blue screens or crashes
I want to work the way I want to, not have to learn to use a different way of operating
the base method just because it's new, or being influenced by tablets or cell phones
which seems to be the case with W8

the only thing I've found to improve computer/operating speed after chip, ram, OS etc
is installed is the hard drive. there can be a noticeable decrease in boot-up time, and
programs do load more quickly with a fast hard drive, so presumeably that efficiency
continues thruout all operations, except transmission time via the internet

my trading is very basic - trading the ES or 6E, NT with 2 charts and MT4 , so my needs
are probably less than other traders - and only 1 crt monitor. I don't use Start much as
my most used programs have shortcuts on the desktop, as well as the Explorer folder

XP 'not being supported after 2014' means nothing, SP4 was the last SP and there's
not likely after all this time of being a stable OS that there's need for changes, so I'll
be staying with XP since there seems to be no benefit in changing to a different OS
but will follow what people have to say about their experience using W8
 
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You are going to run into that no matter what. The ONLY way around that is volume licensing where you point the OS/each instance of XP/7/8 to a server with the key.

If not the normal OEM will break the license every time you make a change.

EDIT: To be more specific, I haven't read the specific license agreements at all however the retail or OEM licenses of Windows are not intended to be hosted as virtual machines, they are all intended to reside on "bare metal" versus be a virtual instance.

I have no idea if that applies to things like Fusion or Player or other things like Virtual box, etc. but in general, you'll keep blowing up the key every time you make a change because the OS/key/activation wasn't intended to be run as a VM.
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What is wrong with Fusion 4 on a mac?

fwiw I run fusion/windows 7 on my macintosh often and never have a problem. I am actually very happy and surprised with how well it works. It was only $ 55.:confused: :confused:
 
Changing the CPU cores/displays/ram breaks the license keys. Full retail versions of OS just re-authorize. But (cheap) oem xp licenses are locked to hardware and only authorize once
 
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I've been running Windows 7 on a 1Ghz laptop with 2GB of RAM and its plenty fast and stable. If yours is not then something is wrong. The general consensus is that Windows 8 is noticeably faster/lighter than Windows 7 and both 7/8 are more stable and secure than XP. [/B]
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U must not be running McAfee ....

Anyways, u r missing out at those specs, and not a serious trader/system developer. :confused:
 
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When I first installed the DP (Developer's Preview) version about a year ago, maybe more, the very first thing I did was get rid of Metro. it's easy (Google it).

Today, I'd say that it's worth the aggravation to learn how to use it. It's much easier once you get used to it.

The only other thing I'll say about W8 is about the apps - sometimes it's a pain to learn how to close them or exit out of them so they don't always run in the background. If you click on them and then hit Alt+F4 will close the Window. Alt+F4 will close any open window/application (that is active) going all the way back to the days of XP.

Open Internet Explorer and then once your home screen comes up press Alt+F4. Same thing will happen on W8 when a metro app screen comes up that you want to close but don't yet know how.
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Thank you kindly for the information, Alt+F4 great tip

Minimal googling and I located a command prompt to disable/re enable which didn't entail a 3rd party application

Disable: bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy
Re enable: bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy standard

http://www.askvg.com/how-to-disable...s-vista-and-7-style-boot-loader-in-windows-8/

Will test this weekend, going to spend some time with Win8 this weekend to familiarize myself with it first.
 
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So many closed-minded critics in this thread. Must all be republicans and not like "change" :p

I can't wait until the crying and moaning starts in about W8... I'd say skip W7 and just go straight to W8.

I'd bet it's just because the layouts are slightly different so the issue is just getting used to something new vs. the actual operating system??

A secret: I have a bit of an advantage. I volunteer with blind people a bunch. I help people who have recently lost their site to re-learn how to use a computer with no eyes. That means no mouse and all keyboard/shortcuts. There is some speech recognition but if it freezes they still need to know how to use a keyboard. If you close your eyes and use the keyboard only you'd realize that Microsoft really hasn't changed much across the whole XP-W8 span. Either way it forces me to know all the differences and be able to teach all the in's & out's of each operating system as well as the difference between what they used to use being sighted vs. whatever they are on now.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449

^^^ Read that (or this for XP: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/301583 ) and try some out. Don't just read it once - make a habit of reading it once a month from now until forever. Learn them and you'll start using your mouse less, be able to switch screens & applications faster and know where everything is no matter what the OS.




Get Windows 8 Professional. It's $139.99 and the same exact price as W7. It'll be cool and fun looking for a few days, then it'll be a royal pain in the rear end for a few weeks - and then you'll learn to love it and never go back to XP or W7.
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WinstonTJ, can I pick you brains re your spcialist keyboard shortcut knowledge ?I really would like to know the keyboard shortcut that would allow me to locate the cursor in the data entry box of a program so I can enter a ticker in the data entry box of a chart program I have just alt tabbed to from another different chart program.

Just want to sit back with a [maybe wireless] keyboard watching the tape and pulling up a chart of anything that catches my interest (Cannot buy keyboard with integrated mouse substitute in Thailand, and keyboard would be easiier - On key point I have noted - professional dealing systems are keyboard driven, retail are mostly mouse driven.)

With your knowledge you could save me hours of reading through the MS shortcuts you posted :) , or just as important prevent me spending time looking for something that does not exist.
 
As many here are using 8 now, I was wondering if anyone has tried using eSignal or IB on 8. eSignal said they are still testing it and CS at IB said they didn't know if TWS was compatible with 8.

I'm buying new computers shortly and would rather go with 8 if these applications are compatible due to the slightly better hardware with the 8 models. If not yet compatible, I'll take the option for 8 on a 7 model.

Many mention 8 being faster than 7. I take that to mean just the Windows applications. With either 7 or 8 it shouldn't make any difference regarding eSignal and other such applications, should it?

Thank you very much for any information you may provide.
 
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As many here are using 8 now, I was wondering if anyone has tried using eSignal or IB on 8. eSignal said they are still testing it and CS at IB said they didn't know if TWS was compatible with 8.

I take that to mean just the Windows applications. With either 7 or 8 it shouldn't make any difference regarding eSignal and other such applications, should it?
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ESignal and TWS under Java ARE WINDOWS APPLICATIONS.
So they will run faster with a leaner operating system.
You may have been thinking about WEB applications.
Note: if Java 7 runs under Win8, then TWS will run fine.
 
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