Xmas Rally Has Finished.

Quote from bwolinsky:

Listen to me: you do not understand economics, here is a video that should educate you to some limited extent:

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If you believe inflation is ever good, IT'S NOT! This is catacylicism at its less obvious stage but all of the Eurozone will feel for their currencies collapse, and probably ours, but<b> my point </b>is that <b>it will not be good for any financial security.</b>

Quote from bwolinsky:

Law of One Price and Arbitrage Pricing Theory say that whether it's Euro or Dollar Denominated Gold and precious medals that they must be worth the same or else there is an arbitrage opportunity.

This is the hyperinflationary scenario envisioned by the NIA, and I think the Euro's collapse will confirm for us the failure of sovereigns is all but assured.

It's a nightmare I woke up from to beg my dad to sell because these problems aren't just much worse than our credit crisis, again, they are 156 times worse because of the scope and lack of economies of scale in dealing with financial problems as big as those of entire nations.

However the ECB decides to handle it it's nice that we're watching them go through it before us because we'll see a Semi-Sovereign like California declrare bankruptcy and that could be the signal that could be the trigger when it comes time to re-up once again and default yet again on our Treasury obligations as the Federal government orchestrates a bailout of State governments likely to include California, New York, and a few other states under major financial distress.

So, yes, I'm sure. It will be interesting following a chart of this occuring, especially the first time interest rates globally spike, gold and precious medals sky rocket because of interest rate carry and arbitrage opportunities as the Euro crashes and struggles for prices denominated globally to reach equilibrium which I estimate in order for the Euro to fall as much as it needs to would mean Euro is worth much less than parity with the US Dollar, around 0.8-0.9 as I have said.

Trade accordingly, but I really don't advise anybody to hold stocks if they're merely expecting inflation to carry their investments because just as Bill Gross is finding his decision to exit longer term bonds may have been his worst decision ever as PIMCO's portfolio manager. The "cry in your beer" comment means he's aware that he made a mistake in his timing, but I'm sure he'll be proven right because it is absolutely impossible for our Fed to maintain rates at their current levels without another round of quantitative easing and more hyperinflation that is understated by our government through the use of hedonics and geometric weighting. I don't really know how fast inflation is rising, or the real interest rates, but if you're not an economist and have no data then this is impossible to say because truly their dependence on government collected statistics, especially ones recorded by the BLS and Federal Reserve, are seriously suspicious as to have been manipulated out of necessity where than veracity.

I'm more concerned that we will try get involved beyond our limited currency swap agreements, and though I'm sure they're priced consistently, those swaps are so the ECB has leverage to intervene using currencies other than Euros, but if they tap their lines and are unable to pay, it is very likely that those swaps will lead to more European defaults and send USD's down with it, and that's the armageddon time where there won't be any way to even afford a loaf of bread, much less an ounce of silver or gold.

Think about it, bhardy, and to the OP, I wish you had more input than listening to me rattle on about the Euro Crisis, and what may soon come in addition to that is its cause the European Sovereign debt crisis, which will make the problem at least twice as worst or 312 times bigger of a problem than the 156 times we have right now when we're facing a central bank who does not feel committing funds just to lose them is worth the risk, and I agree.

Most of the headlines should support this conclusion, but the economics point of it is obvious, if you understand a lot of macroeconomics, not the misconceptions that pervade our financial media cheerleaders like CNBC. Bloomberg doesn't have as big of a problem when it comes to that, but certainly nearly always features a commentator telling you to buy stocks when they could be the worst investment of the next decade no matter how well adept you are at picking them.

If anyone watches that I also suggest immediately watching the documentary "Meltup", because that is where you're going to see the conclusions by the NIA of what really creates economic growth.

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I have viewed similar videos and I am well up to date on their proposed disaster scenarios. I chose not to live in fear like this. There is going to be a lot of yelling back and forth. There is going to be lots of volatility in all types of markets. Over time, however, resolotion will be found.

Your panic feeds them. It gives them the fuel they need to justify new QEs. However, if we all calm down, markets stabalize. Instead of rushing to the exit, we'll spend time trying to solve the problems.

Calm, Peace, Stability encourage investment. Investment encourages growith. That grow increases the quantity and more importantly the quality of jobs which provide the income needed to stabalize the debt.

Realize that what is most relevant with Debt is your debt to income ratio. Therefore, you can effectively pay down your debt by increasing your income. You can increase your income through inflation, or you can increase you income through improved productivity. If you panic, you destroy productivitity.

Everybody, stop worrying and get busy in your life!
 
Quote from bhardy307:

One grand problem, supercycle:

That rally had nothing to do with Christmas.

Exactly. It was a Hanukkah rally technically. Was it short lived? We will find out soon!
 
Quote from bhardy307:

I have viewed similar videos and I am well up to date on their proposed disaster scenarios. I chose not to live in fear like this. There is going to be a lot of yelling back and forth. There is going to be lots of volatility in all types of markets. Over time, however, resolotion will be found.

Your panic feeds them. It gives them the fuel they need to justify new QEs. However, if we all calm down, markets stabalize. Instead of rushing to the exit, we'll spend time trying to solve the problems.

Calm, Peace, Stability encourage investment. Investment encourages growith. That grow increases the quantity and more importantly the quality of jobs which provide the income needed to stabalize the debt.

Realize that what is most relevant with Debt is your debt to income ratio. Therefore, you can effectively pay down your debt by increasing your income. You can increase your income through inflation, or you can increase you income through improved productivity. If you panic, you destroy productivitity.

Everybody, stop worrying and get busy in your life!

Just trying to make some money as a CTA and RIA Rep, I'm sure when it tells me to go long the same inflationary problem I'm betting on spooking the markets suddenly turns into the reason for a rally.

But, seriously, those videos by NIA National Inflation Association are as good as videod documentaries get wrt to education, economics, and especially in making recommendations for members to follow for their investments.
 
Quote from bhardy307:

I have viewed similar videos and I am well up to date on their proposed disaster scenarios. I chose not to live in fear like this. There is going to be a lot of yelling back and forth. There is going to be lots of volatility in all types of markets. Over time, however, resolotion will be found.

Your panic feeds them. It gives them the fuel they need to justify new QEs. However, if we all calm down, markets stabalize. Instead of rushing to the exit, we'll spend time trying to solve the problems.

Calm, Peace, Stability encourage investment. Investment encourages growith. That grow increases the quantity and more importantly the quality of jobs which provide the income needed to stabalize the debt.

Realize that what is most relevant with Debt is your debt to income ratio. Therefore, you can effectively pay down your debt by increasing your income. You can increase your income through inflation, or you can increase you income through improved productivity. If you panic, you destroy productivitity.

Everybody, stop worrying and get busy in your life!

My thoughts also. If you go back in history there are always doomsayers and there always will be. I am doubtful when I hear people giving exact predictions about the future as if they were facts. Anyone with that kind of prediction skills would be richer than Warren Buffet and Bill Gates combined. Thing about predictions from experts, there are experts on both sides of almost every issue, so someone is always is right.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

My thoughts also. If you go back in history there are always doomsayers and there always will be. I am doubtful when I hear people giving exact predictions about the future as if they were facts. Anyone with that kind of prediction skills would be richer than Warren Buffet and Bill Gates combined. Thing about predictions from experts, there are experts on both sides of almost every issue, so someone is always is right.

More importantly, though, somebody is always wrong and somebody is always right.

Zero sum games from the perspective of the winner and positive sum to the losers that don't know what they're doing.
 
Quote from bwolinsky:

More importantly, though, somebody is always wrong and somebody is always right.

Zero sum games from the perspective of the winner and positive sum to the losers that don't know what they're doing.

Where did the false idea come from that trading is a zero sum game? You don't have a zero sum game in an environment where the quantity of money must increase to support a growing global consuming population.

Trading products occur all over the world, not at the expense of one or the other, but to the benefit of both.
 
Quote from bhardy307:

Where did the false idea come from that trading is a zero sum game? You don't have a zero sum game in an environment where the quantity of money must increase to support a growing global consuming population.

Trading products occur all over the world, not at the expense of one or the other, but to the benefit of both.

To quote the Author of "Pit Bull," trading is actually a minus sum game. I have to agree.
 
Quote from LEAPup:

To quote the Author of "Pit Bull," trading is actually a minus sum game. I have to agree.

Why?

Whether we are trading shares in a stock, or trading bread for flower, why must one win and the other lose. Ok, the price of flower may rise providing less bread for the same quantiy of flower, but both parties still benefit from this transaction.

Yes, I could buy your shares of Stock X just as the price begins to fall. However, ownership of those share gives me the awareness I need to short many more shares. As a result we have both profited from this opportunity.

In other words, one negative transaction triggers multiple transactions which produce a net positive result.
 
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