WW III

vanzandt said:
B1, you're oftentimes right.
Do you really think so?
That's a pretty powerful statement, I mean it's not like calling an intraday direction on ES.
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Yes, I do think so. There are a couple of ways to shut it down now. One would be a NATO/USAF air blitz to stop Russia in it's tracks and support/preserve Ukraine. The other would be that Putin backs off with some way to save face. Putin has no intention of stopping with Ukraine and the end game, in my view, is to reestablish The U.S.S.R. bringing all the countries back in. We will need to get involved at some point, hopefully sooner than later and China will likely come in and support Putin or they will use this as an occasion to open another theater starting with Taiwan. There are similarities with WW II in that Biden is seen as weak, just as Chamberlain was viewed as weak by Hitler. Hitler was right in his assessment of Chamberlain just as Biden as been assessed correctly by Putin. Zelenskky is the Churchill of this conflict. WW II started as Hitler wanted back areas that he thought were his where there were German speaking people. Putin wants back what was his where there are Russian speaking folks. Both were interested in revenge. ----History repeats itself just like chart patterns.
 
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Van_der_Voort_4 said:
In this case the plan would be for a ‘limited’ conflict with Russia but that is an extremely high risk scenario that could so easily spin out of control and if it did we would end up in a nuclear war…what would that look like?

Within the first 3 minutes of a nuclear conflict, 2600 ‘high alert’ nuclear weapons are launched. They hit targets in Russia, the US and Europe. They target cities, nuclear power stations, industrial areas, oil refineries, transport hubs. In the following hours up to a further 7600 nuclear weapons are launched.


By the end of the day 600 million people are dead. They are the lucky ones.


In the following days, the unlucky survivors fall sick – poisoned by radiation from the nuclear weapons themselves and bombed out nuclear power stations, or they choke to death on clouds of poisonous gas released from destroyed factories, chemical plants and oil refineries. There is no medical help, no doctors, no nurses, no police, no electricity, no sewage, no water, no telephones, no internet. Nothing. Society has imploded.


High above the earth, in the stratosphere, millions and millions of tons of dust and smoke, hurled upwards by the almost incalculable power of nuclear weapons, form a dense layer, blocking out the sun’s light. Across the globe plants die as temperatures plummet. The rice harvest fails. The wheat harvest fails. Food production fails. Within a month, another 3 billion people are dead of starvation alone; that’s if they’ve not already died of thirst because, of course, all the world’s fresh surface water is radioactive and/or polluted with industrial chemicals


As man dies, so do the animals and the insect, entire ecosystems collapse. There’s no going back now. Extinction beckons.


After two months, 90% plus of humanity is dead. Those that do still live will not live long – their world now is a dead, radioactive ashtray in the throes of a deep, dark, nuclear winter, nothing grows, nothing lives.


Everything is dead.
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There won't be a worldwide nuclear war as you describe. There could be localized use perhaps.
 
By the way, this is Biden and Kerry's war as they have tried to crush the US oil industry with their Green New Deal crap, which has forced us to buy Russian oil which causes us to send money to Russia which they then use to attack Ukraine.
 
Van_der_Voort_4 said:
In this case the plan would be for a ‘limited’ conflict with Russia but that is an extremely high risk scenario that could so easily spin out of control and if it did we would end up in a nuclear war…what would that look like?

Within the first 3 minutes of a nuclear conflict, 2600 ‘high alert’ nuclear weapons are launched. They hit targets in Russia, the US and Europe. They target cities, nuclear power stations, industrial areas, oil refineries, transport hubs. In the following hours up to a further 7600 nuclear weapons are launched.


By the end of the day 600 million people are dead. They are the lucky ones.


In the following days, the unlucky survivors fall sick – poisoned by radiation from the nuclear weapons themselves and bombed out nuclear power stations, or they choke to death on clouds of poisonous gas released from destroyed factories, chemical plants and oil refineries. There is no medical help, no doctors, no nurses, no police, no electricity, no sewage, no water, no telephones, no internet. Nothing. Society has imploded.


High above the earth, in the stratosphere, millions and millions of tons of dust and smoke, hurled upwards by the almost incalculable power of nuclear weapons, form a dense layer, blocking out the sun’s light. Across the globe plants die as temperatures plummet. The rice harvest fails. The wheat harvest fails. Food production fails. Within a month, another 3 billion people are dead of starvation alone; that’s if they’ve not already died of thirst because, of course, all the world’s fresh surface water is radioactive and/or polluted with industrial chemicals


As man dies, so do the animals and the insect, entire ecosystems collapse. There’s no going back now. Extinction beckons.


After two months, 90% plus of humanity is dead. Those that do still live will not live long – their world now is a dead, radioactive ashtray in the throes of a deep, dark, nuclear winter, nothing grows, nothing lives.


Everything is dead.
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That's some scary shit :(
 
Buy1Sell2 said:
Yes, I do think so. There are a couple of ways to shut it down now. One would be a NATO/USAF air blitz to stop Russia in it's tracks and support/preserve Ukraine. The other would be that Putin backs off with some way to save face. Putin has no intention of stopping with Ukraine and the end game, in my view, is to reestablish The U.S.S.R. bringing all the countries back in. We will need to get involved at some point, hopefully sooner than later and China will likely come in and support Putin or they will use this as an occasion to open another theater starting with Taiwan. There are similarities with WW II in that Biden is seen as weak, just as Chamberlain was viewed as weak by Hitler. Hitler was right in his assessment of Chamberlain just as Biden as been assessed correctly by Putin. Zelenskky is the Churchill of this conflict. WW II started as Hitler wanted back areas that he thought were his where there were German speaking people. Putin wants back what was his where there are Russian speaking folks. Both were interested in revenge. ----History repeats itself just like chart patterns.
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There is a 3rd way to stop it and that would be if Putin would be removed from power. ----The anti-war protests in Russia are promising developments.
 
The way Russia is fighting you have to question how many Russian silos are working
Its expensive to maintain a large Nuclear force

GDP
Russia 1.483 trillion USD
Texas 1,818 trillion USD
 
I'm simply amazed. Its like I woke up in Bizzaro World.

Since when did anyone sane consider any direct form of warfare against Russia to be anything other than existential?

We've been a war for so long against half-assed arabs that people in the US have forgotten what a capable opponent is.

And what jackass thought it was a good idea to invite Ukraine into NATO? These clowns are going to get us killed.
 
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