Quote from Jayford:
trad3r
we are already in recession big time you nut case. And its going to get a lot worse. We even have economists admitting it now. (economy.com for example).
of course none of the government or Wall St economists will admit this because they ARE NOT ALLOWED TO, for fear that it will slow consumption further.
The tech crash inspired recession was due to a contraction in capital expenditures which was 18% of the economy. This one is going to be due to consumer spending shutting down AND credit shutting down. Approximately 80% of the economy (Source: WSJ, 3-8-08). It may be the nastiest recession we've had since the Great Depression (source: same article in Friday's WSJ).
The consumer is completely tapped out, and can no longer take money out of their homes, and have record credit card debt. Many bank balance sheets are NEGATIVE. Exports don't even dent this problem. This is a major double whammy. A recession is the only thing that will shake it all out. Not only is it inevitable, its necessary.
trad3r, you obviously haven't been through anything but good times, or you actually believe Kudlow. He doesn't even believe the crap he spews. He gets paid very well to spew it however, because of the ratings he gets. Its the Obama effect: people respond to positive news better than bad news, even if it makes no sense. How could this economy grow at this point when the consumer is up to his eyeballs in debt, and banks don't want to lend?
Most people go by the two consucutive quarters of negative GDP.
There is no evidence what so ever that credit card spending is so called 'maxed out' or that the consumer is 'tapped out'. Also, US consumer isn;t as impotant with globalism. Forigners are taking advantage of the cheap dollar ot buy US goods for example.
So far no negative GDp quarters.
