Quote from riskarb:
Expectancy is model-dependent. Beat the model and you have a +expectancy.
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Now, can we kill this thread?
Quote from fengshui-123:
If you can't answer it please allow other peoples to answer. This thread is not for you only.
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Quote from fengshui-123:
Beat the model also mean the model is not accurately reflect the actual market. In this case, it also mean if the model tell you there is zero expectation, it is not true in actual market.
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I think so too, but we got there in the end - good debate.Quote from Maverick74:
I think we got lost in semantics.
Amen.Quote from Maverick74:
And the reason this thread is so long is not because of this little detour, but rather many on ET thought there was some implicit edge in just selling premium. But let's not go back there.
I have a soloution for you - I'll let you have it when you really get up my nose.Quote from riskarb:
This pseudo-intellectual crap is getting tiresome.
You'd have to look at the market in which you trade options before deciding how well the model reflects the actual market. Each options market (e.g. commodity / equity) will have different smile and skew characteristics, yet there is only one model - BS. The accuracy of the model will vary from market to market.Quote from fengshui-123:
Beat the model also mean the model is not accurately reflect the actual market. In this case, it also mean if the model tell you there is zero expectation, it is not true in actual market.
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Quote from gbos:
By adding to your initial position 'after' the favorable move you don't change the expectancy of the trade. The expectancy 'after' the favorable move is already positive. What you change is your payoff distribution. You are making the small payoff more certain by sacrificing some of the upside potential. This is a good strategy but it isn't changing the expectancy.
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