Wow, this really happens over unpaid bills?
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However, the cops are only doing what their supervisors allow them to do. Don't buy the crap when the supervisors claim they didn't know what was going on. Trust me on this.
There are exceptions, of course, but 9 out of 10 times, the higher ups know what their subordinates are doing out there on the street. There's lots of good cops left, but too many have turned to shit.
There are exceptions, of course, but 9 out of 10 times, the higher ups know what their subordinates are doing out there on the street. There's lots of good cops left, but too many have turned to shit.
Yes, and it is NOT supposed to be this way!
When I wore a badge, I treated people as good as they treated me. Now it's almost like a team of commandos out here wearing badges. There is a MASSIVE difference between combat in War and street crimes. In War related combat, you do things, and it is what it is. The best way to describe it is when the lead starts to fly in War, it's almost like a football team as we would look at each other after a good shot was placed that would, for example, blow some guys head off and straight up in the air, and say Ooh rah!
For civillian Police Officers, they are now confusing their jobs with War related combat, and that is very, VERY bad.
The difference between a combat Marine and a Police Officer's actions are night and day different. Marines are paid to kill, and police officers are paid to PROTECT and SERVE.
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I'm a former Police Officer, and I agree completely! I think the problem is the fact that the young rookies wearing badges these days are from the "screw you, give me something, out of my damn way" generation that seems to be the most desensitized generations I've ever seen!
The difference is they are now wearing badges, and "supposed" to be acting at a higher standard. When I did the job, I called everyone Sir or Mam, and looked to investigate real crimes like robbery, murder, rape, child molestation, etc., I wasn't into the drug busts, and especially not anything like the story from above.
I have a very good Friend who is a Sergeant, and close to retirement. He has his hands FULL with the new guys he has, and it's not because they're rookies. It's because they're from the above "screw you, give me my stuff, and go to he*l" generation...
I'm really not a fan of law enforcement these days, and that's sad as they have now become their own worst enemies when even former Officers can't stand to be around them for more than two seconds. These newbies want to break down some pothead's door, shoot his dogs, and put MP-5's in his family's faces vs. go out and investigate stuff like violent crime. Oh that's right, investigating violent crime would take effort, and the bad guys fight back, so that should paint a picture as to why these guys are pulling the kind of shit that they're pulling with people. Why do they screw with typical, non-violent people often? Because they're lazy, and because they can.
Perhaps it's a feedback loop, because imho the general public has become a lot more disrespectful, too. Sometimes seems like everyone these days believes they're a badass, a genius, always in the right, or all three.
Not 100% accurate. Recently 4 pigs tasered an 86 year old bed ridden woman.
LEAPup sorry i referred to these guys as pigs, but there is a clear distinction in my mind between cops and "pigs"
Pigs are the guys like these assholes who tazed an 86 year old bed ridden woman, these guys are an embarassment to real cops, who are out there serving the community.
In his police report, officer Durgan asserted that Varner "took a more aggressive posture in her bed," evidently causing him to fear for his and his officers' lives.
So an 86 year old bed ridden woman sits up in her bed and it causes these fucking dickwads to fear for their life and taze her?
ORIGINAL STORY FOLLOWS BELOW
Officer 's rationale: Bed-ridden grandmother 'took more aggressive stance' in her bed
When Lonnie Tinsley of El Reno, Oklahoma, called 911 to ask for medical assistance for his disabled, bed-ridden grandmother, he couldn't have dreamed it would end with police tasering the 86-year-old woman twice, stepping on her oxygen hose until she couldn't breathe, and sending her to a psychiatric hospital for six days.
Yet that's what a lawsuit (PDF) filed in a federal court in Oklahoma this week alleges.
According to the lawsuit, in December, 2009, Tinsley came by his grandmother's apartment to see if she was doing alright in the midst of a winter storm. When she wasn't able to tell him if she had taken her medication, Tinsley called 911 and asked responders to send medical technicians over to evaluate her.
But instead of an ambulance, the lawsuit alleges, "as many as 10 El Reno police" arrived and "pushed their way through the door."
At that point, 86-year-old Lona Varner told police to "get out of her apartment." That's when officer Thomas Duran, described in the lawsuit as the "leader" of the police unit, allegedly told another officer to "taser her."
When Tinsley responded "Don't tase my granny!" the officers threatened to taser him instead, the lawsuit states.
In his police report, officer Durgan asserted that Varner "took a more aggressive posture in her bed," evidently causing him to fear for his and his officers' lives.
Police then handcuffed Tinsley and took him to a waiting squad car. They released him without charge some time later. Meanwhile, the lawsuit alleges, officers "stepped on [Varner's] oxygen hose until she began to suffer oxygen deprivation."
Officers then fired a taser at her, hitting her twice, causing her to pass out, the lawsuit states.
At the direction of El Reno police, Varner was sent to the psychiatric ward of St. Anthony's Hospital in Oklahoma City, where she was held for six days.
The lawsuit, which names the city of El Reno and 13 police officers as defendants, alleges that Varner's rights were violated under the Fourth and 14th Amendments to the US Constitution, and that "the defendants caused the plaintiffs to be wrongfully seized, assaulted, battered, physically harmed, humiliated [and] emotionally harmed."
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/06/25/officers-taser-86yearold-disabled-woman-bed-lawsuit/
Cops are weird nowadays. I'm not real scared of them typically but I always thought about what I would do if they kick in my door with no warrant... until I read that story I always thought of the officer's rights and safety and all but wow, that turned the corner for me... our culture is weird actually.. previous poster said "desensitized" and I have to think that is the root of the behavior...
mafia style ... give out a loan, then break your f*ckn legs is there is a problem.
