Will do.
ES and QM are both $12.50/tick but ES is like 4 times more expensive.
Would you short QM now or wait till it's reached $86?
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ES and QM are both $12.50/tick but ES is like 4 times more expensive.
QM as compared to CL. ES and compared to SP. Oh, wait, there is no more SP. I'm getting tired, because I be in another huge drawdown now, because Rickshaw man has failed his charge. I mean, I may have to dump 100 million bucks into my trade, because people like Rick and eqtrdr and what other dumbfuckers there are out there claim that there is ZERO RISK in the markets.
None. ZERO RISK.
The markets never drop. Where are you, Rick, Eqtrdr and all you other bitches? Send me money so I can support my zero-risk trade!
What is that? You won't do it because the market is at all-time high in risk? Uh huh. Fascinating.
(Arni, ignore this post, it turned into a rant about another issue, hehe)
I mostly do swing but this one was a short scalp, first target price was $83.97(+1 Standard deviation on 4h) and if it rejected the zone area would let it go to $83.475(S/R)
Haha, figured
Always remember that if you trade futures, do not talk about "holding" the contract. This is no such thing. You need to trade it, not to hold it. Futures traders do not want to know the "fair" value of any asset. We want to know where the price is heading to within the time horizon we are looking at. If you day trade, you want to know what CL price is going to be after the EIA report. If you want to swing trade, you want to know where the market is heading to next week's EIA.
Also all futures contracts expire. You want to get out, or roll into next months. It is going to a new game for next contract.
Also all futures contracts expire. You want to get out, or roll into next months. It is going to a new game for next contract.
Hmm, this seems to be a contradiction. You can hold the contract to expiration, like an option. And if you are forced to roll, then by that very idea, you have held onto it.
You can just look to my journal to see how future holds work.
And as I think upon this, you know what is awry? CL, with as much vol as it has had these past few months, still has a lower bond requirement than the equities! Lol, now that is rich!
Where is the contradiction? I've been trading commodity futures for 20+ years.
First CL is a physical contract. There is the first notice day. You can't hold the contract to expiration. Anyone who trades CL should know that. Certainly you can trade QM contracts.
If you want to hold the same position over the expiration period, you'll need to roll it to next month(s). This is how those NG and CL ETFs work. I do not follow how they roll the contracts now. Before it was a short window. Now I believe the window is wilder since they do not want to get taken advantage on the other side. I used to trade against them during the rolling period.
I think we are confusing terminologies between us.
In my mind, "holding" a contract is a swing, while "trading" it is a day-trade idea. That is all I was getting at.
You clearly said you want to hold CL to expiration. Everyone knows what "holding" means. I can hold CL for day-trade or swing position. Holding has nothing to do with swing or day-trading.
And you stated the "contradiction". Hope you not confused by yourself....
"Always remember that if you trade futures, do not talk about "holding" the contract. This is no such thing. You need to trade it, not to hold it..."
Do not even go there. Welcome to my journal.
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/and-they-have-a-plan-live.306838/