Quote from Palatine:
The investor on the other hand bases his investment decisions on fundamentals and thorough research on a company. The so-called "due diligence." This allows him to sit out adverse price movements with conviction, similar to stock_trad3r's example with RIMM.
Quote from lindq:
The purpose of a stop in an "investment" is to conserve capital that can, and should be, put to better use.
If the OP, to use his Rimm example, had a reasonable stop in place, he would have exited before riding the stock to the dumps, and had an opportunity to re-enter at a much more favorable price.
His gain at this point would have been far greater. And, he would have had better use of the capital during the period that the stock was crumbling. Even sitting in an account drawing money market interest would have been preferable.
And I don't care what criteria you use for a company's "fundamentals", if a stock is down 30%, there is absolutely something wrong with your investment decision, and it is time to exit and reconsider. It should NEVER have gotten to that point in the first place.
Quote from stock_trad3r:
on a position if you were certain that you would make money on it later? I know that a lot of traders here are SUPER aggresive about cutting losses. Some people don't let a single loss amount to more than .5% of the enitre account.
But without taking big paper losses, doesnt that limit your upside because you're constantly getting stopped out? Or your're selling too soon instead of rising the trend for fear of losign money?
Why not establish a longer term postion and ride it out? If you think the dow should be at 12500, wait for that target. Let the puts expire. Why sell so soon and so readily?
It seems so many traders have a morbid fear of losing money.
Quote from stock_trad3r:
I've lost up 30% on postions in paper, held them, and still beating the market.
The stock market rewards people who are willing to accept short term loss for long term reward.
If you're bearish about the US economy and the stock market and think the dow should be uch lower, why not open a long temr bearish postion and stick with it? There are so many people who trade in and out of the market, despite holding very strong convictions.
Quote from stock_trad3r:
I've lost up 30% on postions in paper, held them, and still beating the market.
The stock market rewards people who are willing to accept short term loss for long term reward.
If you're bearish about the US economy and the stock market and think the dow should be uch lower, why not open a long temr bearish postion and stick with it? There are so many people who trade in and out of the market, despite holding very strong convictions.
Quote from stock_trad3r:
on a position if you were certain that you would make money on it later? I know that a lot of traders here are SUPER aggresive about cutting losses. Some people don't let a single loss amount to more than .5% of the enitre account.
But without taking big paper losses, doesnt that limit your upside because you're constantly getting stopped out? Or your're selling too soon instead of rising the trend for fear of losign money?
Why not establish a longer term postion and ride it out? If you think the dow should be at 12500, wait for that target. Let the puts expire. Why sell so soon and so readily?
It seems so many traders have a morbid fear of losing money.
Quote from lindq:
And I don't care what criteria you use for a company's "fundamentals", if a stock is down 30%, there is absolutely something wrong with your investment decision, and it is time to exit and reconsider. It should NEVER have gotten to that point in the first place.
