%% Good points kandlek!!
He also said repent or perish[Luke 13]. Many NAZI [ national socialists]in Germany chose to perish. Why do so many in media, love Senator Sanders, socialist
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Would Jesus Condemn Neo-Nazis ?
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He also said repent or perish[Luke 13]. Many NAZI [ national socialists]in Germany chose to perish. Why do so many in media, love Senator Sanders, socialist
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Its funny but the new testament reads a lot like the Gita. Do you think Jesus copied the cool things Krishna said?
Both are mythologies. Plain and simple.
Captain Kangaroo may be a better model for living. I am pretty sure both the Captain and Mr. Rodgers would be against Nazis.
https://www.vox.com/2017/8/20/16167870/aclu-hate-speech-nazis-charlottesville
White nationalists are met by a group of counter-protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia. Photo by Joshua Roberts/Reuters
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown...lu-change-policy-hate-groups-protesting-guns/
Video Shows Man Shooting At Crowd During Charlottesville Rally
The ACLU documented the incident two weeks ago, and the man has now been arrested in connection with it.
27/08/2017
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...ille-rally_a_23186969/?utm_hp_ref=au-homepage
Richard Wilson Preston was arrested for firing a gun during the clashes in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Aug. 12.
A man attending the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, earlier this month fired his gun in the direction of a black counterprotester who was holding a torch, and police in their vicinity did not seem to respond.
Those events appear in a video filmed two weeks ago by a volunteer with the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia and published by the civil rights group on Saturday.
Myth or not ... "He restoreth my soul." Is that ok with you ?
Anyway, it's not about being for or against. G-d came to save both the evil and the good.
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If it makes your life better then by all means believe. Just don't try to legislate to dictate based on "morals" based on your interpretation of that belief. Not saying you do, but that behavior is why so many of us see Christians as evil.
evil?
based on what legislation? is it evil to say that 2 people of the same sex can be in some sort of legally sanctioned relationship but don't call it marriage?
laws in america are frequently based on morality as long as they are consistent with the constitution.
so why would your chosen morality be seen as superior to someone elses?
why can you vote your morality but a christian or a jew or atheist may not.
Don't we all vote for what we think is correct?
based on what legislation? is it evil to say that 2 people of the same sex can be in some sort of legally sanctioned relationship but don't call it marriage?
laws in america are frequently based on morality as long as they are consistent with the constitution.
so why would your chosen morality be seen as superior to someone elses?
why can you vote your morality but a christian or a jew or atheist may not.
Don't we all vote for what we think is correct?
So first off we have this separation of church and state thing here in the United States. You get to vote for whoever you want. The person you vote for doesn't get to legislate based on their religion. Note how I said legislate and you said vote, that's an important distinction and if you think they're the same thing you really don't get the fundamental concept of the Constitution. In fact basing laws on religious beliefs has pretty universally been shot down by the supreme court for decades. The laws that are upheld have a basis other than religious, i.e. they represent a universal moral value that can be supported without referring to a law passed down by an imaginary entity. If you followed the laughable attempts to defend DOMA without invoking the real fundamentalist christian reason behind it you saw that. I mean they were trying themselves in knots talking about procreation but sterile couples and post menopause couples were somehow different than gay couples...it was pitiful. Almost as bad as your rediculous implication that the whole kerfuffle was about the word "marriage"! Which is why what appears to be your position, that discrimination based on sexual orientation is OK, was declared unconstitutional. And yes, as a happily married heterosexual man I find your "morals" in this case to be not only pure evil but the very opposite of what the Jesus in your Bible would do. I sometimes wish I still believed in hell, because then I could be happy knowing there was a place there for all the sanctimonious assholes who destroyed people's lives in the name of their god.
Note that my response was to someone who obviously received great personal benefit from their religion, to which I said by all means keep believing. I would quite happily live surrounded by those type of religious people. As Gandhi apocryphally said 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'
I would go further and estimate only 5% of the red letters came out of the mouth of Jesus.
So i don't have a lot of respect for anyone pretending that all the red letters are his words, those pretending to be for Jesus, and those pretending to be against.
Now, based on very little info about Jesus, people think they can guess how he would react to this or that issue.
As far as condemnation, the human condition is already one of condemnation. It's a state of self-condemnation not initiated or perpetuated by any god that is actually good.
So, there is nothing about the human condition to save, as it is already a state of condemnation.
Salvation is not for people, neither the good people, nor the evil people. People are condemned of their own devices, sharing the devices that make them human.
The problems that produce the 'neo-nazi' are the same problems that produce people.
So it really makes no sense to start making distinctions among people, except to recognize who, among the dying masses, is ready to listen and learn the same things Jesus heard and learned.
Who is ready to listen?
I don't believe for a minute that Christians are more ready to listen than anyone else.
The propensity to listen and learn, i estimate, is about the same no matter one's ethnic, political, or religious background.
Oh, and the propensity to listen and learn is rare.